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Inside Out with Turner and Seth (wTnS) Podcast.

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    Episode 93: John Kadlecik

    This episode features Rob's interview with guitarist and songwriter John Kadlecik, who comes roaring out the gate with some strikingly candid commentary on previous songwriter collaborations.

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    Episode 92: Keller Williams

    This episode features the wildly versatile singer/songwriter/musician Keller Williams, who comes right out the gate with enthusiastic tales from his experiences with his family seeing theater on Broadway.

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    Rare Spontaneous Check In w/ Rob and Seth

    Rob and Seth emerge and explain recent show delays, talk about recent Railroad Earth and Keller Williams interviews. Oh, and Rob waxes poetic about his first Grateful Dead New Years Run just under, yes, 4 decades ago!

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    Episode 87: John Medeski + Billy Cobham

    The majority of this episode features Seth and Rob chatting with the eclectic ace of the keyboards John Medeski about everything from his high school days playing with Jaco Pastorius, to his current days playing in the adventurous Mad Skillet. John talks about why his landmark organ trio Medeski, Martin and Wood's initial choice to hit the road in the 90s was a bold one at the time, and what has motivated him to continue to push the envelope in all of his acts over the years. Medeski shares memories about exploring boundless musical terrain with John Zorn, what was unique about playing with Jack Bruce (beyond how he made ceilings crumble) and of course Col. Bruce Hampton. He also talks in detail about his approach to composition and improvisation, his work with The Wood Brothers and the future of Medeski, Martin and Wood. This episode also contains the first little window into Rob's recent interview with the iconic jazz and fusion drummer Billy Cobham. Cobham here relates some of his experiences with The Grateful Dead. Cobham gets his own episode soon during which he will talk about his entire career, particularly his recently released "Time Lapse Photos (The Crosswinds Project)."

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    Episode 86: Mental Health with Nuci's Space, Anders Osborne and Andy Frasco

    Mental health is a difficult topic, but it is important that it not be an ignored one. There are many musicians (and people in general) dealing with brain disorders, and in this episode we celebrate Nuci's Space. Seth and Rob hope with this episode to shine a light on how Nuci's Space provides a culture free of stigma for anyone who is struggling with mental health issues.

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    Episode 85: Lindsay Lou & Scotty Stoughton (WinterWonderGrass)

    This episode Seth and Rob celebrate WinterWonderGrass starting with a nice chat w/ veteran WWG performer Lindsay Lou. The show then goes into a deep conversation with Scotty Stoughton, the promoter, musician and music aficionado who created this festival and more!

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    Checking In: Kebbi Williams

    Kebbi Williams joined Seth and Rob in the Diamond Street Studios a few weeks before the 9th Annual Music In The Park festival.

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    Checking In: Show Update

    Seth and Rob update the listeners on some of the exciting things that are planned for this fall. For example, there are five releases scheduled for October alone.

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    Episode 83: Ronnie McCoury and Ziek McCarter (Con Brio)

    Seth and Rob update the listeners about some of their recent live music experiences throughout this episode, but the rest is a Seth Fest! Seth first interviews Ronnie McCoury and discusses his work with the legendary Del McCoury Band as well as his own The Travelin' McCourys outfit. They talk about Ronnie's son's 10-piece Jazz/Funk band, the new wave of bluegrass bands, the importance of being musically versatile and many other topics. Ronnie also speaks for the first time publicly about the tragic passing of Jeff Austin. Then Seth has a brief chat with Ziek McCarter of the lively soul/R+B/PsychRock band Con Brio. Ziek talks about how Con Brio is able to take its music across the globe. Ziek speaks of how having enthusiastic fans so far from home inspires them, how they can turn seated audiences into dancing ones, their tour with Galactic, how they keep the creative juices flowing and more. Con Brio will be releasing music and touring this fall with the groundbreaking Asian/American rapper, Lyrics Born.

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    Episode 82: Neal Casal (Circles Around The Sun) & Author Joel Cummins

    Neal Casal is an accomplished guitarist whose interesting career has led him from Blackfoot in the late 80s to the singer/songwriter world in the 90s to Ryan Adams in “The Oughts” and then onto Phil Lesh to his current adventurous band Circles Around The Sun. Seth and Rob spoke with him before Circles took the stage at the Terminal West in Atlanta. The conversation starts with a discussion about the unique way this band came together and how the members push each other to continue to reinvent the music in the spontaneous nature it was initially created. We the jump in “the wayback machine” and learn about how this New Jersey kid ended up being the lead guitarist of what many say is the best incarnation of Ryan Adams and The Cardinals. He also elaborates on the organic genesis of the band, Brotherhood (with Chris Robinson) and the raw beauty of the Hard-Working Americans (with Dave Schools and the ever-enigmatic Todd Snider). The show opens with a brief phone conversation featuring Joel Cummins of Umphrey’s McGee. We learn about his new and wildly informative book, “The Realist’s Guide To a Successful Music Career” which he wrote with author/entrepreneur Matt DeCoursey. Joel and Rob walk through just some of the many pieces of music career strategy wisdom that this book offers. It is a “must-read” for anyone seriously contemplating a dive into the business of music.

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    Episode 81 - Chad Stokes/Brad Corrigan (Dispatch) + Ben Ellman (Galactic)

    This episode features two separate interviews. The first of these is from when Rob and Seth sat down with Chadwick Stokes and Brad Corrigan of the wildly successful independent band Dispatch just before the band performed at the 2019 Candler Park Festival. Among the many topics discussed are their Boston farewell show which took place over a decade ago and reportedly drew over 150,000, as well as the strikingly raw documentary "The Last Dispatch" which thoroughly documents the build-up to this show and the show itself. The band has recently returned to regular touring and we learn some of the ways each has changed since the band went on hiatus. They also relate how difficult it was to reform the group when they learned that founding member Pete Francis Heimbold was not yet ready to resume the touring lifestyle. We also get a taste of how this fiercely independent band may have at one point come closer to joining a major label than many of its fans knows. The second interview finds Seth speaking with Galactic saxophone ace Ben Ellman. Ben talks about how his life has become more busy with his production work, and the fact that the band has taken on the honor of being the current caretakers of the legendary Tipitina's in New Orleans. Ben breaks down some of his producing work (particularly that with The Revivalists) and warns of the dangers of "Demo-itis." He also compares playing the baritone sax to playing tenor and speaks about the Walter Wolfman Washington solo release that he worked on (and shared the good news that they are apparently at work on another project). Seth and Rob also update each other on some of each of their own goings'-on, as they cut the segments for this episode after having not seen each other for two months.

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    Episode 80: Brandon “Taz” Niederauer

    Rob and Seth sit down with the ever-improving 16-year-old guitarist Brandon "Taz" Niederauer and learn how a performance at a Rock n Roll University event at a Mets game ultimately led Niederaurer to Ellen DeGeneres, Gregg Allman, Col. Bruce Hampton and other musical luminaries. Brandon speaks of his teammates in his current band, and about how he has stepped up his own songwriting to provide material for the nationally touring act. Brandon talks about how he still gives a great deal of time to his schoolwork and makes sure to maintain his oldest friendships - yet still manages to find "pockets of time" to work on his music. We learn of his hometown of Dix Hills on Long Island in New York, where John Coltrane once lived. Taz expresses surprise to learn that 50 Cent also used to live there. Brandon talks about how his experience at the Roots, Rock, Revival camp found him enjoying quality time with musicians like Butch Trucks and Oteil Burbridge. Brandon proudly talks about his days at the Broadway musical School Of Rock including auditioning for Andrew Lloyd Webber and the day Stevie Nicks visited and collaborated. He also raves about his moments on stage with BB King and Derek Trucks and talks about his days with Col. Bruce Hampton from when George Porter Jr. introduced them until the Col. began his journey to the next dimension at Niederauer's feet.

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    Episode 79: Bill Nershi of String Cheese Incident and Justin Levy

    We were very proud to be given the opportunity to interview Bill Nershi of String Cheese Incident, so even though Rob Turner was on assignment in New England, Seth Weiner was able to soldier on and do what is probably his best to-date solo interview (although we are all confused as to what "taking the realm" means). Bill and Seth wasted no time in comparing Fox's. They also spoke about how, like Railroad Earth's Tim Carbone, Bill is a Colorado transplant from New Jersey. Bill elaborates on this, the ever-growing "New Grass" (aka "Jam Grass") scene and how he went from being a fan of Del McCoury to becoming one of his peers. Nershi also speaks of how his days as an aspiring visual artist led to him creating the band's now-familiar "Pagan Swirl" artwork. He lets us into his thoughts about writing and performing with his wife Jill, Jim Lauderdale and Benny Burle Galloway and speaks of the importance of having a representative of the "lyric police" in the room. The joys of bringing forth new songs to the SCI repertoire, and dusting off old ones (SCI had just a short time before this interview performed the "40 Miles To Tulsa" chestnut for the first time in 20 or so years, and this performance is included at the end). Bill also throws some loved toward key people behind the scenes in the SCI family who plan and execute their most elaborate incidents, and gets a tad emotional when talking about his friend/neighbor Jeff Austin who had passed away shortly before this interview. Seth also speaks with Justin Levy of Conscious Alliance and they briefly discuss how his CA harnesses the energy and passion of the music world to feed hungry people of the wider world. Levy talks about how he found his way to serving others for a living, and gives examples of ways that Conscious Alliance encourages people to participate. The episode ends first with Turner talking about his experience traveling to Philadelphia for a weekend-long Bachelor's Party in celebration of his long-time friend Jefferson Waful (who is the Director of Video at CID Entertainment) and then with a soundboard recording of the aforementioned String Cheese Incident bustout rendition of "10 Miles To Tulsa."

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    Episode 78: Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio

    Seth and Rob huddle in a corner of Eddie's Attic with Delvon Lamarr, Jimmy James and Keith Laudieri. These three gentlemen make up the Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio. We learn many things including how these musicians' considerable talent and the savvy of Delvon's manager/wife Amy Novo were each able to help lead the band's first cd Close But No Cigar to debut at an impressive #1 on the Contemporary Jazz Album Charts. This turned the "Soul Jazz" trio into an internationally touring act, and they remain one to this day. Delvon, who is a master of the Hammond B3, explains why he decided to become a frontman, how his past as a drummer influences his approach to his organ work, who his primary influences are and about how important maintaining a sense of melody is to his playing. Jimmie James talks about how his blues past shapes his playing, and about how his and Delvon's wide musical palette combines with a mutually adventurous approach to produce wild improvisation with great regularity. These great musicians also talk about their enormous popularity in Europe, and the jazz audiences there. Laudieri is a Texas drummer who that night would perform publicly with the Lamarr Trio for the first time. He spoke of how he met Delvon in Austin (Delvon and his wife have since relocated from Seattle to Austin) and about what it's like to join a trio in which the other two musicians know each other so well. We also learn of some very cool encounters these fellas had with Sharon Jones, Greg Errico and other amazing heroes of music.

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    Tweener J: Kevin Browning of Umphrey's McGee

    Rob and Seth have a phone chat with one of Umphrey's McGee's managers, Kevin Browning. They first revel in the joy that is the band's new vape pens, Night Nurse and Day Nurse. Kevin talks about how this collaboration between the band and MedPharm came to be, and some of the specifics about each. They then dive into the 15th Anniversary "redux" release of the band's pivotal record, "Anchor Drops." Kevin talks about the decision-making process behind the re-release, the difference between the remix and the remaster and even shares some stories related to the songs. The hosts also discuss Jefferson Waful, who is leaving his position as lighting designer, but Browning speaks of his hope that Jefferson will still offer his video brilliance to the band, as evidenced by the "redux" videos he has this year created for every Anchor Drops song. The folks also discuss Umphrey's McGee's future, including their adventurous destination show in Iceland.

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    Episode 77: Paul Hoffman

    Rob and Seth sit down with Greensky Bluegrass's Paul Hoffman at Candler Park Festival in Atlanta, GA.

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    Osiris Interview Series - The Werks' Rob Chafin

    Last Summer both Seth and Rob were at Electric Forest where they had a chance to sit down with Rob Chafin from The WERKS. They spoke on many topics from the band's current state and their upcoming WERK OUT Festival. The interview is filled with some good stories and a few puns (Seth apologizes in advance). This is part of the Osiris series that wTnS occasionally releases.

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    2019 Shaky Knees Festival Review

    Seth quizzes Rob on his experience at this year's 2019 Shaky Knees Festival and all the acts he saw at the fest, particularly The Murlocs. Turner goes on to discuss their new album Manic Candid Episode and other experiences from a lovely weekend at Central Park in Atlanta, GA.

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    Episode 76: Celebrating Bruce Hampton and Vassar Clements

    Our regular listeners are aware that Col. Bruce Hampton is essentially the Godfather of this podcast. He was our first guest, and has helped us grow in immeasurable ways, some obvious....others not as much. Every year we honor him with his own episode. This year we celebrate his music, and his spirit of shining a light on other musicians. We are featuring his work with another lost musical icon, Vassar Clements. Vassar's 90th birthday was just days before this episode was released.. We have performances from three different years of Thomas "T-Dawg" Helland's Harvest Festival when Vassar sat in with Bruce's Planet Zambi and Codetalkers bands. We also have a snippet of our Larry Keel and Jason Carter interview (recorded at Diamond Street Studios in Atlanta) during which they each discuss Vassar and they offer a duet performance of Vassar's "Paddy On The Turnpike." There are other musical gems as well including portions of Bruce's 2007 visit to the WNCW Studios in Spindale, NC (with his band The Quark Alliance) and the debut of a poem Kevn Kinney wrote in Colonel's honor. Kevn unveiled it at Warren Haynes' Christmas Pre-Jam over and all-star band performing extemporaneously. We hope you enjoy and more importantly that you can feel our undying love for the inimitable Col. Bruce Hampton.

    Check out our previous Col. Bruce Tributes:

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    2019 SweetWater 420 Festival Preview

    Seth and Rob salute the SweetWater 420 Festival by running snippets of previous interviews they have conducted with musicians scheduled to perform at the 2019 version of this Atlanta festival. This episode includes the words and music of Billy Strings, Mimi Naja (Fruition), Matt Butler (Everyone Orchestra), Nick McDaniels (Big Something), Mike Wilson (Voodoo Visionary), Moon Taxi, John Bell (Widespread Panic) and Tom Hamilton (JRAD, Ghost Light).

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    Episode 75: Peter Rowan [Part Two]

    This episode focuses primarily on Peter Rowan, a Grammy-award winning legendary singer/songwriter who has for over five decades spread his music across the globe. Early in Peter's career, he worked with Bill Monroe, and soon after he was with Vassar Clements, David Grisman, Jerry Garcia and John Kahn in the historic bluegrass band, Old & In The Way. He has also recorded and performed with some of the greats of acoustic music and beyond including Tony Rice, Jerry Douglas, Sam Bush, Norman Blake, Jack Casady and countless others. While rooted in folk and bluegrass, Peter's music has also touched on reggae, gospel, classical Indian, Hawaiian, old time country, mountain music, He has penned many classic songs including "Midnight Moonlight," "Land of The Navajo," "Panama Red" and "Mississippi Moon."

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    Episode 74: Peter Rowan [Part 1]

    This episode focuses primarily on Peter Rowan, a Grammy-award winning legendary singer/songwriter who has for over five decades spread his music across the globe. Early in Peter's career, he worked with Bill Monroe, and soon after he was with Vassar Clements, David Grisman, Jerry Garcia and John Kahn in the historic bluegrass band, Old & In The Way. He has also recorded and performed with some of the greats of acoustic music and beyond including Tony Rice, Jerry Douglas, Sam Bush, Norman Blake, Jack Casady and countless others. While rooted in folk and bluegrass, Peter's music has also touched on reggae, gospel, classical Indian, Hawaiian, old time country, mountain music, He has penned many classic songs including "Midnight Moonlight," "Land of The Navajo," "Panama Red" and "Mississippi Moon."

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    Checking In: Jamband Trump

    Just after his trip to Viet Nam, Jamband Trump came to Atlanta to sit down with Rob and Seth to offer his opinions on this show, its hosts, Phish, Umphrey’s McGee, moe. and other musical acts. A nemesis of his makes a cameo, and some surprising stories emerge. Big league thank you’s to Tim Andrews of the “Von Haessler Doctrine” Radio Program and the “Radio Labyrinth” podcast for generously sharing his talent with our show.

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    Episode 73: 3/5 of Mike Gordon in 3900 Seconds

    Rob and Seth talk about the current incarnation of Mike Gordon, and its superb Spring Tour 2019-opening show before tossing to an in depth interview. Scott Murawski, Robert Walter and John Kimock join the hosts at Atlanta's Diamond Street Studios and they quickly find themselves discussing the producing brilliance of Shawn Everett, and how it was vital to the unique feel of (beg italics) Ogogo (end italics). Live performance is discussed at length, and Scott talks about how Mike encourages the band to, "push the envelope as far as sound goes and as far as improvisation goes" and Robert relates about how exploring synthesizers and the textures they create with Mike Gordon has directly influenced his 20th Congress work and vice-versa. Scott talks about how he sometimes likes to, "play things in a way that encourages people to think 'I could do that'" after which Walter leads into a conversation about improvisational exercises and the importance of "rudeness" with regard to creating compelling music in the moment. John Kimock explains some of his thinking behind his own approach to improvisation, and to his solo work some of which is with his father, legendary guitarist Steve Kimock. Also discussed are mid-tour musical adjustments, the interactive elements of Mike Gordon (the band) tours and how much fun they are having with the plethora of unrecorded songs specific to Mike Gordon (the band). Scott responds to Rob's suggestion that Max Creek bassist John Rider was a huge influence on Mike Gordon (the person), brings forth his early memories of Mike and band mate Trey Anastasio watching Max Creek from the front row, offers his opinion on an old Phish myth, talks about how horn players influenced him, his recent writing with Mike and spin on the Joni Mitchell "Kill Mommy Syndrome." A discussion about Robert's first pedal leads first to The Police and Bob Marley and in turn about how the "embrace of the economy of parts" was a significant influence on Robert as a musician. Each of these fantastic musicians updates the listener on their own solo projects, and then Seth and Rob offer their own closing thoughts. Late in the episode there are also COMPLETE live versions of Mike Gordon and Robert Walter's 20th Congress songs.

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    Episode 72: Kris Myers and Aaron "LOUIE" Meyette

    Rob and Seth first rejoice over the announcement of the new partnership between Osiris Podcasts and JamBase, and Rob elaborates on why he believes this is the ideal relationship for this podcast and for others on the Osiris Network.

    Then the listener is again taken to backstage at The Tabernacle for two interviews conducted during the Umphrey's McGee 2019 New Years' run. Drummer Kris Myers talks about his transition from being an enthusiast of grunge music to studying jazz and cutting his teeth in the "hot seat" of playing in "pro level" big bands.

    Kris explains how "one of the weirdest people I know" Brian Abraham is a bit of an "unsung hero" in Umphrey's circles. On the eve of his 16th Anniversary with the band, Kris talks about how his predecessor Mike Mirro helped him find his musical place in Umphrey's McGee, how "Plunger" and "Believe The Lie" were among the first Umphrey's songs he helped to shape and how his playing in the band has evolved over the years.

    We also learn about the "Hide The One" jam, how he used orchestral percussion to achieve a "thick, pulsating tone" on the band's recent studio release and Myers takes us into his thinking process behind one particular drum solo he played during this run (and we get to hear it). He also details his experiences with other musicians, including Jimmy Chamberlin of Smashing Pumpkins, Zappa alum Mike Keneally and the legendary Adrian Belew.

    Then Aaron "Louie" Meyette represents the midwest well as he walks us through his unusual career path to becoming a full-time Umphrey's Mcgee employee. Louie went from working with the "Midwest Peeps," to USTORM, to doing Umphrey's merchandise to becoming the Lighting Crew Chief. His Umphstory should inspire others who aspire.

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    Episode 71: Thirty Years of Leftover Salmon

    Turner and Seth first explain how this episode came together mostly by accident. They chat with Tim Newby, author of Leftover Salmon: Thirty Years Of Festival. Newby shares an early life story from each of the band's founding members: Drew Emmitt, Vince Herman and Mark Vann. Newby also offers his opinion on two myths that have become legendary in Salmon circles. Fans of Phish and String Cheese Incident will be interested to learn how Salmon’s early career intersected with those groups. We learn the beginnings of a musician’s prank called "Songbombing" discussed with Mimi Naja in Episode 63). Newby also tells us how different drummers came to define each era of the band and shares a passage from his book about the importance of finding Andy Thorn after the passing of Mark Vann. Next we go to the "Tasting Room" at Atlanta’s City Winery and hear long-time friends Drew Emmitt and Vince Herman speak of Tim's book, their evolving relationship with Phil Lesh, their current "living room-style" tour and more.

    The episode contains two exclusive duo performances from Emmitt and Herman, and a full-band live take on the Drew Emmitt's song “Astral Traveler," written in tribute to this program's Godfather, Col. Bruce Hampton - this version performed in The Colonel's adopted home town of Atlanta. A gorgeous studio version of the song appears on the Steve Berlin-produced Something Higher CD.

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    Episode 70: Isaac Teel of TAUK

    Rob and Seth first talk about they had to miss some of an Umphrey's McGee show to conduct this interview, which at once pained Turner but also indicated how strongly he felt about the brilliance of this guest. A quick tribute to Kofi Burbridge, a musician who passed away shortly before parts of this episode were recorded, unfolds to the Teel interview which finds him quick to explain how thankful he is to do what he loves for a living. Isaac talks about the importance of a band having a vision and being careful to make licensing decisions with this in mind. He also relates a revelation he had while working at Payless Shoes, how he auditioned for Stomp and the fact that he loves writing music and would be "really content" with just writing music if for some reason he could no longer tour. Isaac also mocks the "fashion-ignorant" Turner for being overly impressed with his own yoga pants, but he welcomes Turner's offer to give him a Kyrie Irving shirt (upon further review, it will probably be a Jayson Tatum shirt). The trio talk about the improv in the song "Convoy," the importance of "uber subtle non-verbal communication" and how while the band often knows exactly where they are going, those moments "when you know you don't know" can be the blessings which "hit you in the face." Teel admits his love of hip/hop and how in his teaching his students learn the importance of making a statement and how Kendrick Lamar "doesn't even know he's a drummer." Isaac also walks us through how his song "CMF 9000" evolved from an Ableton piece to a TAUK staple (this is demonstrated to completion at the end of the episode). He also relates about how the band benefits from each member having its ego enough in check to benefit from their each other's composition inputs and how this in turn makes the whole greater than the sum of its parts. He walks us through many TAUK songs, particularly delighting Rob by relating some of the history of the Turner favorite, "Check Mate." The new, free live release "Real TAUK Vol. 1" featuring tracks suggested by the band comes up, and Isaac indicates receptiveness to Turner's idea to have Part Two be selected by some of their most fervent fans. Perhaps most touching is how Teel repeatedly returns to the theme that much of his success in life and music is due to his mother. God bless her. The episode ends with Seth and Rob each sharing some recent live music experiences, and Rob ranting about confounding Twitter responses he received from cranky New York writer Caryn Rose and the curious Twitter inferences of the movie soundtrack artist, Branford Marsalis.

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    Episode 69: Jeff Coffin

    Seth and Rob sit down with Jeff Coffin backstage at The Tabernacle in Atlanta just before Jeff was going to join Umphrey's McGee for portions of the final two shows of that band's New Year's run there. Coffin delights the hosts by talking about how hearing Colonel Bruce Hampton and the Aquarium Rescue Unit on the way to the grocery store one afternoon completely changed his view of music. Jeff relates how after a chance encounter with Victor Wooten, Jeff ended up going to see Bela Fleck and The Flecktones in Aspen. Jeff would learn at setbreak that thanks to drummer Tom Pollard, Bela was already, "Coffin aware." A relationship developed quickly and soon Coffin found himself playing a gig with The Flecktones in Vermont, after which Bela surprised Jeff by asking him to join the band on a more permanent basis. We learn about how Coffin began sitting in with Dave Matthews Band, and then how at one point he had to scramble to help them out when tragedy hit the band just hours before tour. Jeff effusively reports about how consistently welcoming the entire band was to him, and we learn of (and hear) how years later the band negotiated their way through the beginning of "Ants Marching" the first time they played it after losing another key band member. Coffin elaborates on other awkward on-stage moments that have happened with DMB, although on balance the band is of course doing quite well. In fact, DMB had an incredibly strong 2018 with the release of its 7th consecutive #1-debuting record the (the first band to EVER pull that off) and their ability to continue to hit new peaks as a live act after all of these years. A discussion of "The Space Between" leads to Coffin elaborating on the importance of music....and in life. We also learn about how teaching as changed him as a musician and as a person and he talks about the thought process early this decade that lead to him starting his label, Ear Up Records. As Turner elaborated upon in the intro, this label brings forth a variety of records featuring brilliant, and in some cases lesser-known musicians, aeach schemed in very clever and unique fashion. Jeff goes into detail about a few of these - including how he brought the legendary Dave Liebman down to Nashville for a bunch of gigs, one of which would lead to the superb "On The Corner Live: The Music of Miles Davis" release. Jeff reveals how this was essentially recorded surreptitiously. The episode outtro includes Seth's reports from some of the destination festivals he has been working, and Rob talks about the music-packed weekend he had just had including a fantastic triple bill of Liz Cooper + The Stampede/New Madrid/The Artisanals.

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    Episode 68: Jake Cinninger

    Seth and Rob sit down with Jake Cinninger of Umphrey's McGee backstage at The Tabernacle during the band's recent four night New Year's run. Jake sits with guitar in hand and talks about the creation and influences of many Umphrey's McGee compositions. His reflections on the band's fantastic year lead to an interesting discussion of how the Umphrey's collaboration with drummer, Jason Bonham unfolded (and how Van Halen served as a bonding force). Jake also talks about how the band's improvisational approach has evolved in recent years, and offers specific examples of this. Jake talks about his "Live From Boondocks Studio" series and expresses an interest in doing more of them, and to record some of the hundreds of songs he has archived there. Jake talks about his love of, and history with country music, and specifically Sturgill Simpson, and how he would love to become a bridge between the country music and Umphrey's McGee world. Cinninger also talks about how the recent sit in with "American Treasure" Larry Keel came together and the chances of that collaboration happening again. Jake demonstrates his "muppet character guitar" abilities, demonstrating some unique elements of the work of guitarists Mark Knopfler, Albert King, Chet Atkins, Robert Fripp and Joe Pass as well as artists like Lamb of God, Van Halen, Mastodon, Thin Lizzy and Fripp's King Crimson. Jake takes a stab at a "progressive country" song, debuts the framework of a potential future Umphrey's song and even mentions quantum physics during this chat. Jake also talks about how his experience as a drummer influenced his writing, about performance and writing insight he tries to impart as a teacher and he demonstrates on guitar how the usage of "tension notes" can punch up a composition. Seth and Rob offer a quick wrap-up which includes Rob's observation that two different fellow Osiris Podcast Network teammates had each recently delivered stories about Bruce Springsteen. Seth then talks about his forthcoming destination events, and he will report back on those in future episodes.

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    Tweener I - Umphrey's McGee Atlanta New Year's 2019

    Rob walks Seth through a set-by-set recap of the Umphrey's McGee four night 2018-19 New Year's eve run at The Tabernacle in Atlanta. Sara Jachimiak of the Umphreak Parent's Podcast ( calls in to give her review of the intimate "ViP" set which occured the afternoon of December 29th. She also talks about her own Umph-centric show, and she gives her five favorite moments of this run. If you want recordings of this run go to, and if you would like more examples of Seth and Rob focusing on Umphrey's McGee - check out the Brendan Bayliss episodes (part one - part two - and the episode with their outstanding front-of-house sound engineer, Chris Mitchell (

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    Episode 67: Billy Strings

    Seth and Rob had an opportunity to sit down with a young man who is setting on fire the traditional music-flavored wing of the jamband world, Billy Strings. The hosts in advance of the interview discuss Billy and his touring band, and then throw to the interview - conducted backstage at Terminal West just before Billy and his band performed there (all of the LIVE music you hear in the episode is from the Billy Strings show that night). Billy first picked up the guitar at the age of 4, and we learn about some of the many things that influenced him....his father......legendary musicians from Mac Wiseman to metal.....a powerful DMT trip....and the way he these days is positioning himself in anticipation of spending the majority of the next few years playing music around the world. Billy proudly relates how his father would sit him down and enthusiastically educate him on various artists, and Billy gets emotional as he relates a story about a night in Ohio when he got to return the favor and introduce his father to one of those artists, David Grisman. Billy tells of how this led to him and his father jamming with David and Del McCoury. Billy is clearly wise beyond his years, and we learn about how he more focused on keeping his career moving in the right direction than in the party which can surround the world of a touring musician - prioritizing his career even to more of an extent than many veteran musicians. He at this point in his life would rather feed his mind with a good documentary than his head with intoxicants. Billy talks about some of the decision points and inspirations behind his brilliant most recent cd, Turmoil and Tinfoil. Billy speaks about one of the many lessons he has learned while playing which forever changed his approach - this one delivered by Sam Bush without Sam saying a word. We also find out about how years later Sam himself brought forth his own similar story after Billy told him of this treasured learning moment. Billy then plays three songs exclusively for you, the InsideOut wTnS listener. The episode ends with Seth talking about Closer To The Sun and Rob relating some of his experiences seeing the quintet Max Creek in Rhode Island and Thom Yorke in Brooklyn. Then Jon Stickley offers some thoughts on Billy Strings, and a quick cover of one of Billy's funnier compositions, and the episode ends with the jam-licious pair of songs which ended of the first set from the same night as this interview.

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    Episode 66: Stanley Clarke

    Seth and Rob set the table with a talk about Stanley Clarke and all of the musicians he has worked with over the years. Clarke is an innovative jazz-and-beyond bassist who even had a bit of hit with the title track of his Stanley Clarke Band record, “School Days” in the 70s, and with the landmark fusion band, Return To Forever. We learn about when the now-iconic “School Days” bass line came to Stanley, and about how RTF-band-mate Chick Corea convinced Stanley to start writing years before that. Stanley elaborates on the importance of Art Blakey, and about how Clarke was so moved by John Coltrane that he at one point even seriously considered ditching his bass to play sax. Stanley also talks about his recent work with the Smithsonian, how he chose to play Alembic bass. and the great honor recently bestowed upon him by the Montreal Jazz Festival. Stanley very much continues to make amazing music today, and the genesis and ethos of his poignant 2018 release, The Message is discussed. Stanley benefits from the compositional and performance talents of some incredible young musicians on this record, many of which are discussed including Cameron Graves (a founding member of West Coast Get Down) and Beka Gochiashvili (who was discovered by Condoleeza Rice in Georgia, the former Soviet republic). Perhaps best of all for some, Stanley shares some memories about jazz pioneer, Charles Mingus. Before the episode ends Seth shares his experiences at the Hulaween Festival in Florida, and Rob talks about seeing Bob Dylan in North Carolina and Bob Weir and The Wolf Brothers in Tennessee.

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    Great PeaTAUK

    A special episode featuring the music of Great Peacock and TAUK.

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    Episode 65: Salmon Dusters

    Seth and Rob welcome new sponsor Ben and Jerry's, and announce their new "It's Ice......Cream" flavor which was produced together with Phish and The Waterwheel Foundation. The hosts then set the context for this "hybrid" interview/performance episode which was conducted before the Leftover Salmon/Infamous Stringdusters/Horseshoes and Hand Grenades delivered a memorably mammoth Atlanta show. All of the music from this episode (aside from the two songs this quartet played after the interview) was recorded that night (9.21.18) and is available at Drew Emmitt and Andy Thorn of Salmon, as well as Andy Hall and Travis Book of the Stringdusters sat down with Rob and Seth all at once. The discussion started with a "compare and contrast" view of each group's most recent releases and the similar and different ways each approached composing and recording the songs. It is revealed that each of these bands is so cohesive at this point that they are able to focus their creative energy appropriately and decisions are made naturally. The Stringdusters pair is very forthcoming about what an inspiration Leftover Salmon was, and remains to be to them, and other trad/jamband groups. They also elaborate on the "vibe'y" and bizarre house at which they stayed in King of Prussia, PA while recording their forthcoming Stringdusters record. We get specific descriptions of, and stories about the genesis of the Infamous Stringdusters in Boston, and North Carolina - where Thorn as well as John Stickley factored in considerably...and onto Colorado. Finally, we learn about how Andy Thorn found himself first in Emmitt/Nershi Band, and then in Leftover Salmon whom he had seen many times. Bennie "Burle" Galloway is discussed and we learn how each musician gained some songwriting insight from Burle, and we even get examples of some of the unique ways he puts songs together. Each musician tells their nightmare gig story, and then the band performs as what we are calling the "SalmonDusters Quartet." The songs performed are "Blue Yodel #4" by Bill Monroe and Galloway's "How Far I'd Fall For You." The hosts then close the show first with a discussion about how happy they are that Mike Finoia and his Amigos Podcast have each joined the Osiris Family. They also fill the listeners in on a few other things including the David Byrne show they each saw at Atlanta's Fox Theater and Rob's experience at one of Neil Young's Capitol Theater gigs. The episode ends with a soundboard recording of the Colonel Bruce Hampton Tribute encore the night of this interview. Jeff Mosier and all of the members of Horse Shoes and Hand Grenades and Infamous Stringdusters on stage Leftover Salmon and performing "Little Georgia Rose" and "Workin' On A Building" and Vince Herman referencing, "Cheese Frog."

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    Osiris Interview Series - Matt Butler

    In part of wTnS's Electric Forest festival coverage for the Osiris Podcast Network, Rob and Seth sit down for a look into the world of Matt Butler and his Everyone Orchestra!

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    Episode 64: Uilses Bella and Justin Poree of Ozomotli

    A discussion about Ozomatli's Embrace The Chaos leads hosts Seth and Rob to relate some of their memories of the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 tragedy as this excellent record was released on this day. Social media recently revealed that Ozomatli performances in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 served as vital and joyous therapy for many who attended. Seth's son Darral joins for the first part of the interview with Ulises Bella and Justin Poree of Ozomatli, as the band had just finished the most recent Atlanta "Ozokidz" performance. Darral lends a child's perspective with his questions about this widely celebrated, audience participation-heavy series. The band's bassist, and self-proclaimed Darral fan Wil-Dog Abers also joins in the fun spontaneously to field a couple of questions. We learn not only about the revelry that goes on with regard to these events, but also how Ozokidz is in part a reflection of the band's genesis in music education and outreach programs in southern California public schools. The main portion of the interview begins with a discussion of the band's most recent release, Non-Stop: Mexico to Jamaica. We learn how the band decided to take classic and/or traditional Mexican songs and adorn them with roots'y vibes and Jamaican rhythms, and how they ended up working with Sly and Robbie. The chat makes its way to other musical artists, particularly Los Lobos, Santana, Rage Against The Machine and Ghostland Observatory, The band's frightening experiences at the 2000 Democratic National Convention, and another time when members were arrested in Austin are also each covered, as is their love for, and association with the Los Angeles Dodgers. The conversation even floats into the realm of politics for a bit, and how the band's is often inaccurately reduced to being nothing more than a, "political band."

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    Checking In w/ Jennifer Hartswick

    A very special episode featuring a quick Check In w/ Jennifer Hartswisk and an exclusive first listen to a track off her new album Nexus. This is the latest solo release from the Trey Anastasio Band trumpeter/vocalist and features contributions from 6-time Grammy Award-winning jazz bassist Christian McBride as well as longtime musical partner Nick Cassarino (The Nth Power).

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    Episode 63: Mimi Naja of Fruition

    Seth and Rob sit down with Mimi Naja of Fruition at the Electric Forest Festival in Michigan and initially talk about what it's like to be playing traditional instruments at a primarily electronic music festival. Mimi ends up explaining the thinking behind the band's decision to bring into the studio the rock feel of their live shows and their decision to go with producer Tucker Martine. Martine taught the band many things, helped them add layers to their sound and he is the chief reason that Mimi decided to play some baritone guitar on the record. The result is by far their greatest record to day, "Watching It All Fall Apart." The trio also discuss how the band's breakup songs contain elements of hope and accountability. We hear a bit about Mimi's days as a Georgia youth and explains her decision to leave Georgia and go to school in Portland. She would leave school and then clicking with a group of musicians while playing Marley and Sublime tunes. These folks would end up becoming Fruition. We learn about the band's the early days, and some of the antics that went on as the band grew (like "song-bombing" Vince Herman). She also talks about how she used to leave pronouns out of her songwriting because of all of the homophobia in the world, but that she has more recently eschewed this approach and been forthcoming with her sexuality. Mimi also explains specific reasons why Atlanta-based musician Janelle Monelle is an inspiration to her, and the fluid nature of sexuality in the music world. Speaking of inspirations, the discussion most certainly gets to stories about Greensky Bluegrass, Elephant Revival, The Infamous Stringdusters and other of Fruition's "Crazy Uncles and Aunts." She also expresses love for her own band's fans, which she calls the "Fruit'y Freaks." Seth and Rob then wrap up the show catching up the listeners on show news during one of the few times they were together last month. Speaking from a coffee shop in Black Mountain, NC they also discuss North Carolina in general, and specifically their day together there. The show ends with more Fruition music including Mimi and band mates Jay Cobb Anderson and Kellen Asebroek sitting in with Railroad Earth and performing Fruition's "Mountain Annie" at the idyllic Red Rocks.

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    Episode 62: Big (Something) & VooDoo (Visionary)

    Seth and Rob give a quick introduction to set the table for a collaborative interview with Mike Wilson of Voodoo Visionary and Nick MacDaniels of Big Something. Voodoo will be performing at the Big Something-hosted-and-curated Big What Festival the weekend after this episode is released. This conversation begins on common ground with a discussion of DJ Logic and Turkuaz as each band has collaborated with each of these artists. The quartet segues neatly into a discussion about selecting and working with producers and then Nick sheds light on the learning curve that goes along with throwing one's own festival and the importance of creating something special with a friendly atmosphere. Nick also opens up about losing his best friend, and one of the chief creative forces behind Big Something, Paul Interdonato....when things get a little heavy Mike steps up and talks about some of Voodoo's biggest non-musician influences. Each of them also speak about the support (and lack thereof) as well as some of their frustrations with local media in each of their markets. The musicians also share a "gig nightmare" story each, and they discuss some of their most recent material (including Nick elaborating on specific songs from their 2018 release The Otherside). Nick also reveals which verse of the brilliant "Sundown Nomad" was written by Mister, who will perform with Big Something at The Big What (Nick also waxes on some of his favorite collaborations over the years). Then we are all treated to solo versions of Big Something songs "UFO's Are Real" and "The Cave" from the 2017 release Tumbleweed delivered by the ever-gracious MacDaniels. Seth and Rob then wrap up the show with some musical world thoughts of their own, including reports about recent shows each has seen (Phish, Patti Griffin, Amanda Shires and others) and Rob's appearance on the Alpharetta version of the Osiris Phish Couch Report.

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    Checking In w/ Robert Walter

    A quick "Check In" w/ Robert Walter about his forthcoming album Spacesuit and an exclusive first listen to the track "Most Of All Of Us."

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    Episode 61: Eddie Roberts of The New Mastersounds

    Rob and Seth return to Terminal West to pick Eddie Roberts’ brain about all things New Mastersounds. However, the conversation kicks off with Eddie explaining how his new band Matador came together, and how he and the other musicians (Alan Evans, Kevin Scott, Chris Spies, Adryon de Leon and Kimberly Dawson) came together and that they plan on making this a permanent band, as opposed to a mere, "project." They also talk about how the most recent New Mastersounds cd Renewable Energy is appropriately-titled, and how it represented a number of firsts for the band. We learn about how some of the songs were inspired and titled, particularly “Chicago Girl” - and how the Chicago Girl suggested a cover with which none of the band members were familiar, yet which still made the record. Eddie also explains how de Leon’s creative input on this record is different from how he expects it will continue to be in Matador, and about why tNM is starting to become more interested in recording records “live” in the studio. We learn how the band’s songwriting has evolved from Eddie being the clear principal source to its current predominantly collaborative nature. Eddie talks about how his picking style comes from his jazz and classical background, and why his playing style is closer to that of a bluegrass player than a rock player. He also relates about how John Scofield almost lost a gig to a storm that happened while Eddie was dining with him, and shares some Sco insight. This leads to a discussion about Miles Davis which in turn leads to Eddie comparing and contrasting one way his approach differs from that of the virtuosic organist, Robert Walter. He also relates some of his experiences with Corrine Bailey Rae as Eddie has known her since she was a bartender and watched her have repeated success starting with her being only the fourth British act in history to have her debut cd debut at Number 1 on the Billboard charts. Eddie also explains some of the ways tNM's early days playing in London impacted the type of players they are today (for more on this, check out Episode 15 with tNM drummer Simon Allen). We also find out what motivated Eddie to start his successful charitable organization, The Payback and about how Eddie felt about getting to work with heroes of his like Ernest Ranglin and The Meters.

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    Episode 60: Jon Stickley

    "Rob and Seth take over the patio at Arden’s Garden in the Little Five Points section of Atlanta to interview, and even enjoy some brief performances from Jon Stickley. This Chapel Hill/Durham-based acoustic musician may very well owe some of his fiery approach to bands indigenous to “The Triangle” (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill) like Polvo and SharkQuest. Stickley talks about their influence, and about his days drumming in punk bands. He would meet Andy “Crawdad” Thorn (Larry Keel Experience, Leftover Salmon) in high school, and when Thorn gave Jon some Bela Fleck and David Grisman cds, Jon’s life was forever changed. Even while playing in punk bands and his own indie rock band (an experience that would ultimately be key in his songwriting development), Jon would become a fervent fan and student of bluegrass and the mandolin. While an opportunity to be an assistant park ranger in Alaska did not allow him to accept Anders Beck’s (Greensky Bluegrass) initial invitation for him to join Broke Mountain, he would eventually join them on guitar. He also revisited the mandolin to tour with North Carolina bands the Biscuit Burners and Town Mountain. However a fellow musician noticed his strong love of the guitar and encouraged Jon to focus on that. Jon agreed and would in turn decide to start his own band. Around this same time Billy Gilmore (Grass Is Dead) introduced Jon to Lyndsay Pruitt. Pruitt had toured with Black Mozart Ensemble, a side project of Flecktones drummer, “Futureman.” Pruitt would join Jon’s trio, and her playing quickly became an immediate influence on Jon’s songwriting. We also learn about the unusual residency their new drummer Hunter “JamChops” Deacon experienced. The band not only does more “off the map” improvisation since Deacon joined, but some of these improvisations have also become seeds for future compositions. During the closing segment, Seth and Rob share some of their experiences at this year’s Electric Forest festival and we are treated to two songs from the Jon Stickley Trio cd, Maybe Believe.

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    Episode 59: Michael League of Snarky Puppy

    Between Snarky Puppy’s recent captivating pair of Atlanta shows, Rob and Seth chatted with its founder (who just won a Grammy for Culcha Vulcha) and co-founder of the GroundUP Music label, Michael League. This label’s truly unique, annual and independent GroundUP Music Festival in Miami Beach, Florida is an extension of the group’s ethos, so it is discussed first. We learn about how they chose to hold the fest in Miami Beach and about the challenges and rewards of running a festival at which shining a light on truly brilliant artists is more important than ticket sales. Michael also talks about how his producing work has become increasingly diverse and he tells stories specifically about working with Eliades Ochoa (Buena Vista Social Club) and David Crosby. Michael talks about how his playing has been influenced by Jaco Pastorius and Wayne Krantz, and he goes on to reveal why he has evidenced such loyalty to musicians and other peers who have been with him and the band for years. We also get a window into his process creating music to execute with Metropole Orkest, collaborating with Jules Buckley (he “plugged the music into the score”) all of which landed the band one of their Grammy’s for Sylva. Michael also touches on the writing process for Snarky Puppy, one which often involves a slew of extremely talented musicians, and he talks about how the band’s live shows remain cohesive despite their rotating line-ups and tendency to improvise. He also touches on his other band, Bokanté, and what the future holds for them. The ever-effusive League elaborates on many other topics and the episode ends with live versions of Snarky Puppy performing “Tarova” and GroundUP’s latest amazing artist Alina Engibaryan singing “We Are,” each from a recent Atlanta show.

    Make sure you head on over to to listen to the band's two-night run in Atlanta and many more available shows!

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    Episode 58: Karl Denson

    Seth and Rob help saxophonist/flautist/composer Karl Denson extend his checkout time at an Atlanta hotel while they chat with him about a variety of topics including his time with the legendary Rolling Stones. However, Karl has his own impressive career as a front man, so the trio starts by discussing this. We learn about how the musicians who would ultimately prove themselves ideal came together for his most recent release “New Ammo,” as well as his forthcoming project. We hear about his excitement to again be working with Zac Najor, someone he has known since the early days of his outstanding band, Greyboy Allstars. We also learn about Chris Stillwell, Kenneth Crouch, Seth Freeman, DJ Williams and other fantastic musicians. Denson also explains how he benefited from the work of Elvert Walltower, who helped fine tune the vocals on “New Ammo.” Then we are taken back to when Karl got “the call” from Lenny Kravitz to tell him his “name was thrown in the hat” to replace Bobby Keys in the Rolling Stones - a call which initially came in while Karl was purchasing his first-ever guitar. Cosmic. Denson tells about how the Skype calls and rehearsals would served as his initial entry into this amazing world. He tells us about the kindness and support of Stones bandmate Tim Ries (who also manages to find side gigs for some of the band members irrespective of where in the world the band is geographically) and about Ries’ own recorded work away from The Stones. Karl comes clean about how some of his own over-playing on one version of “Brown Sugar” earned him a trip to “the principal’s (Mick’s) office.” Karl gives specific examples which evidence how hard The Stones work and how they maintain a healthy combination of joy for, and commitment to what they do. Many more Stones-related subjects are discussed, including how a steak dinner in Chile with Keith Richards and Ron Wood fell together naturally…..and how Keith has a love for reading ship’s logs. Karl is sharing an upcoming festival bill with Stevie Wonder and Kendrick Lamar, and this leads this program into a discussion of each and in turn a digression about “conscious” hip/hop. Karl explains his aversion toward “music that sounds like (it’s created by people who) don’t have mothers.” Rob also goes through a bunch of Denson-related cds made by veteran taper Ira Gross and Karl shares some of his memories of each, including his memories of the themed Halloween shows which were held over a decade a go in this program’s hometown, Atlanta. Karl even explains why, “Bob Weir paid for my house” and how Jon Fishman had a prophetic moment at Hampton70.

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    Episode 57: Erick 'Jesus' Coomes of Lettuce Pt. 2

    This contains the conclusion of Seth and Rob’s chat with Erick “Jesus” Coomes of Lettuce. Coomes talks about the band’s decision to incorporate lasers and even “gets all Kanye” on the hosts at one point. The boys finally jump into the wayback machine and talk about Coomes’ father who was a hugely influential Christian Rock musician and producer who eventually wound up working with legendary musicians like Stevie Wonder and Whitney Houston. We learn about specific experiences Erick and his brother, the accomplished producer/drummer Tyler “Tycoon” Coomes had watching their father work which would greatly impact each of their lives. Adam “Shmeeans” Smirnoff crashes the party and talks about the importance of bringing your best every time you step on the stage, and what it’s like being a new parent while being a member in a full-time touring band. When the focus returns to Coomes, he talks about how his father arranged for a young Erick to be treated to private lessons with legendary bassist John Patitucci. Time forces us to skip forward, but we learn how Jesus found Anthony Hamilton and how that would in turn change his and his brother’s life. Jesus gets candid about how a tip from a friend would ultimately lead to him working with Eminem, Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent. We even get a tiny window into the great Dr. Dre’s creative process, and the power of his two words “keep practicing.” We also learn about some of the workings behind the 2013 Hip/hop Bonnaroo SuperJam with DJ Jazzy Jeff, Method Man, Redman, Ghostface Killah, Wu-Tang Clan and others. Rob and Seth encourage Erick to get Lettuce to record with hip/hop artists in the future. Before bringing the episode to a close, Rob Turner reads the tweets that caused David Crosby to block him. Was this deserved? Email us at and give YOUR opinion.

    Music used for this episode as inspiration and also speaking points can be found on a Spotify playlist here

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    Episode 56: Erick 'Jesus' Coomes of Lettuce

    Rob and Seth return to the "Inside Out wTns Room" at the Variety Playhouse to chat with Erick "Jesus" Coomes of Lettuce. First, Erick "Benny" Bloom joins the hosts during the introduction for a brief chat which includes a discussion of the band's adventurous release focusing on material associated with Miles Davis, "Witches Brew." Then Jesus sits down and discusses songwriting, shopping his songs to other artists, the power of meditation and synchronistic events. He uses a session with Mike Posner in Telluride to exemplify how meditation can impact songwriting. Jesus also gives a window into the preparation for and execution of their collaborations with John Scofield and the band's Berklee buddy Jeff Lockhart. He talks about the band's upcoming "Don't Lett Go: Tribute To JGB" set at Lockn and how it will also extend to the material of other Garcia Bands. He goes on to tell how the band has benefited and changed as a result of its members having more time to make it their top priority in the last few years. The new Lettuce song (listed on live recordings as) "House U" also gets discussed and a full version of it appears on the end of the episode after Seth and Rob give a brief review of recent Atlanta shows each has seen.

    Music used for this episode as inspiration and also speaking points can be found on a Spotify playlist here

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    Tribute to Col. Bruce Hampton Part 2

    Rob and Seth revisit their interviews from backstage at the Hampton70 concert at the Fox Theatre May 1, 2017 to continue to tell the story of the truly mystical Colonel Bruce Hampton. Bruce was honored that night by a stunning array of musicians, and then he "achieved his grease." The hosts first update the listeners on recent developments regarding the decidedly "Colonelesque" Fox Theatre Institute, the organization for which money was raised on this night. Then they play an interview with Adina Erwin, vice president and COO of the Fox Theatre, who explains the origins and goals of this charitable organization which reaches out and assists historic theaters throughout the state of Georgia. The Colonel loved the work the institute is doing and everyone associated with this podcast continues to love it as well. Then we hear Kevin Scott, Oliver Wood, Kevn Kinney and Peter Buck each offer thoughts on Col. Bruce on the day of the Hampton 70 event. The episode ends with Colonel-centric clips from more recent chats with Vince Herman and Johnny Knapp. We all here at the Inside Out wTnS podcast love and miss The Colonel and try to live our lives in his spirit as much as we can. We also, as Rev. Jeff Mosier says, "choose gratitude."

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    Episode 55: Dave Watts (The Motet)

    Seth updates the listeners with regard to this podcast's presence at SweetWater 420Fest which takes place the weekend after the release of this episode. Rob relates how he experienced the results of very positive and very negative staff behavior at two excellent recent shows he saw (Yo La Tengo, Karl Denson's Tiny Universe). In the minutes between, they chat with the drummer from The Motet, Shockra and Katharsis, Dave Watts. Dave talks about how a couple of years ago singer Jans Inger left The Motet while it was at the highest to-that-date level of popularity. Undaunted, the band would hit the ground running. Not only did they find a great singer and showman, but also an ideal lyricist named Lyle Divinsky. The band slaughtered with the new material at Red Rocks last year to such an extent that they officially released the performance. The Motet is now enjoying the highest levels of popularity of its career. We also learn of Dave's early Boston days playing in the band Shockra (who recently reunited). Shockra was a hugely popular band, and Dave talks of the "notorious" parties at their band house in Newton and how they ran in the same circles as did a young Phish (who once let him use their treasured mailing list) and G. Love. We hear of how he "got his butt kicked" at his first-ever jazz gig at the legendary Wally's Cafe. We learn about why he decided to move to Colorado, and the way he assimilated into the Colorado music world. He reveals that Mushroom Beer deserves an assist with regard to the initial formation of The Motet.

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    Episode 54: Jerry Joseph

    Seth and Rob first discuss the various events this podcast will take part in during the upcoming SweetWater 420 Music Festival in Atlanta. Then the focus turns onto Jerry Joseph as we hear an interview recorded at David Barbe's Athens studio during Jerry's first days recording with a brand new band full of songwriters. Jerry is an accomplished singer, front man and lyricist and the founding member of Little Women, The Jackmormons, Stockholm Syndrome (which featured Dave Schools of the band that has greatly benefited from Jerry's songwriting, Widespread Panic) and this current project which is for now called Interstellar Boys. Jerry talks about how it has been a tad rare for him to play off of another guitar since his early Little Women days despite the fact that dual guitar has over the years served his music quite well. Then we learn how he began his world travels as a way to provide a actual adventure for his loyal fans. Over time this morphed into him becoming an even more extremely conscious international citizen himself. He has done great work in Nicaragua, Afghanistan and Iraq among other places. He even lost a Tel Aviv gig once because, "war broke out." Despite hating the actual word "empowerment," Joseph relates how he in fact helps to empower children by fearlessly traveling to war zones to provide equipment, share his music, encourage their music and teach guitar. Jerry's song "Giraffe" gets analyzed and then the trio hops into the "Wayback Machine" and Jerry relates how Ricky Nelson was pretty much how Jerry would initially find music and how he developed as a performer and how music helped him get through some very difficult times particularly during his days in New Zealand (Seth speculates with regard to what New Zealand's "Shalom" is. We also hear Jerry give a strikingly candid assessment with regard to how he has handled his own anger over the years and about the extent to which he views his own career as a success versus a failure.

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    Tweener H: Inside Out wTnS Live w/ DJ Logic, Steve Lopez & Voodoo Visionary

    Episode 54 begins with Seth and Rob giving their thanks, discussing a new partnership with Osiris Podcast Network and CashOrTrade.Org and then they move on to discuss our upcoming live event on March 28, 2018 at City Winery Atlanta. Then they revisit their most recent live event which was at City Winery last fall. We hear their live interviews from that night featuring Steve Lopez (Tour Manager of Widespread Panic and others) and also DJ Logic, where Rob & Seth ask about his early childhood music influences and go on to discuss his newest endeavor, named Project Logic. Seth and Rob also provide some of their memories from that night. Listeners unfamiliar with our live events will get a taste of Seth’s auctioneering skills and also have the opportunity to listen to the beautiful sounds of VooDoo Visionary with DJ Logic and many other guests, including Joe Marcinek, Heather Gillis, Donna Hopkins, Ruby Velle, Jim Loughlin and many more. Tune in today to get a feel for our live event and we hope to see you out at our next one, on Wednesday March 28 at City Winery in Atlanta, GA!

    To listen to the whole VooDoo Visionary & Friends featuring DJ Logic show (FOR FREE), click here!

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    Episode 53: Adam Deitch of Lettuce & Break Science

    Seth and Rob begin this episode by calling Adam's father, Bobby Deitch, to discuss his own musical history and it's relation to his accomplished son. The discussion with Adam then begins, by comparing and contrasting his work with Break Science and Lettuce and then segues into his new jazz quartet. Deitch goes on to discuss the levels of hip hop influence in both his drumming and producing careers and also how bands such as Greyboy Allstars and Galactic paved the way for Lettuce. Talks continue with Adam focusing on the importance of music in his childhood home, the plethora of musicians he met at Berklee School of Music and how much of his career is owed to Eric Krasno.

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    Episode 52: Anders Beck Part 2 (Greensky Bluegrass)

    Hosts Seth & Rob begin this episode by discussing Benny "Burle" Galloway, a guest alongside Anders Beck at the next Inside Out wTnS Live event at City Winery in Atlanta, GA on 3/28/18. The two then resume their interview with Anders, where he discusses a pivotal Leftover Salmon show for him, and his first discovery of the dobro at Telluride Bluegrass Festival. The three then go on to discuss the early development of Wayward Sons. Anders goes on to discuss how he and Paul Hoffman met Nathan Moore at "The Spot" on Jam Cruise and also collaborating with Phil Lesh. The interview concludes with Anders discussing the philanthropic circle of his friends and family, which is a true treat.

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    Episode 51: Anders Beck Part 1 (Greensky Bluegrass)

    To celebrate the Osiris Pod debut and team, Rob & Seth release a two part interview with Anders Beck of Greensky Bluegrass, from the band's sold-out debut performance at the historical Tabernacle in Atlanta, GA.

    Part 1 sees Anders discuss the band's early playing days in Atlanta at Smith's Olde Bar where Mike Gordon showed up, sharing Phish fandom with the hosts, and then going on to discuss how much effort GSBG puts on their nightly setlists. He also goes on to discuss the ever-lasting impression that Leftover Salmon made on Greensky Bluegrass and also Anders himself at an early time in their career. Be sure to listen to part two!

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    Episode 50: In'y Out'y Awards

    InsideOut wTnS debuts on the Osiris Podcast Network (OSIRISPOD.COM) with an "Awards-show" style 50th episode. Hosts Rob Turner and Seth Weiner play and discuss four categories of clips. After a "Best Reveal" start, the hosts in typical fashion choose to poke fun at themselves with the remaining categories - "Worst Interruption," "Worst Question," and "Worst Reveal." Amidst these categories are four "Best" performances from previous episodes which feature exclusive live songs from Sam Bush, Randall Bramblett and Kevn Kinney as well as an episode-closing one from Geoff Achison. The other categories feature portions of previous episodes with our all-star cast of guests.

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    Episode 49 - Jeff Franca (Thievery Corporation/Congo Sanchez)

    This episode begins with a fortuitously-timed incoming phone call from Robert Polay, the founding partner of this podcast's first formal sponsor Polay + Clark. Seth shares his ideas for their new company slogan and Polay approves. Then Rob and Seth chat with Jeff Franca of Thievery Corporation before that band's recent performance at The Tabernacle (Atlanta, GA). They first talk about his other band, Congo Sanchez. Franca speaks of how the death of his brother, and the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine inspired the band's thematic debut album, We learn the extent to which improvisation plays into this band's work in the studio and live. Rob then asks about Thievery's gloriously bossa nova-flavored 2014 release Saudade, and their roots-dub-dance hall reggae-focused 2017 release The Temple of I and I. Then we learn how the Clifton, Virginia product (who was for a time an "orchestra dork and even performed at the Kennedy Center) ultimately found artists like Fugazi and the music world which surrounded the legendary 18th Street Lounge, the latter of which escorted him into the world of Thievery Corporation. We also find out that on this night there were some changes made in Thievery's live act, how much the band improvises and areas into which he would love to see the band dive in the future. Franca expounds on many other topics, including the oxymoron that is "rhythmic imperfection," how Haitian and Cuban music influenced him and how he and other band members talked Thievery into committing to, and then executed their sets of Grateful Dead music. Then Rob talks about his return to writing and Seth reports back from his experience as a couple of destination concerts and the 2017 season of Inside Out wTnS comes to a close. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner, with this episode produced by both he and Seth Weiner, and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. wTnS Sponsor: Polay + Clark 21st Century Accounting (Don't wait till April and get fucked, get Polayed) Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Checking In - Jefferson Waful Update

    Rob and Seth call Jefferson Waful to ask him about the recent commentary piece produced by Luke Stratton of The Light Side podcast. Stratton and Waful offered a fascinating window into Waful’s lighting process in general, and specifically incorporating video elements during Umphrey’s McGee’s recent show at The Capitol Theater, and some key points are explored further. They also ask him about his decision to finally incorporate some lasers into the Umphrey’s McGee show, which occurred during the band’s New Year’s run at The Fillmore in Denver, CO. They also manage to annoy him by the end. Is great fun. Give it a listen. ::::::RAW AUDIO:::::: This episode is in raw format with no sound edits. Please excuse the levels. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Tweener G - Al Brownie (moe. and The Disco Biscuits)

    It all started with Rob’s idea to have Marc Brownstein on for the intro for the Jeff Franco (of Thievery Corporation) episode. “Brownie” is not only a BIG fan of Thievery Corporation, but his band The Disco Biscuits has hosted them at their annual Camp Bisco Festival. Being in the spirit of the holidays and having just spoken about health recovery of moe.’s bassist Rob Derhak beating cancer, Seth thought it might be funny to call Al Schnier and have Al pretend to be Rob Turner during the chat with Brownie. What ensued went well enough to become it’s own episode. Amidst the fun, many topics were discussed including how this year’s approach to their New Years setlists was much different than years past and Al talking about getting back together with his moe. band mates and much, much more… wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner, with this episode produced by Seth Weiner, and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 48 - The Infamous Stringdusters (Chris Pandolfi and Andy Falco)

    After a brief music chat, Seth and Rob sit down with Andy Falco and Chris Pandolfi of the Infamous Stringdusters before The Dusters’ Atlanta show this past fall and confer on this fantastic band. Since this interview, The Stringdusters band has been nominated for a Grammy for its Laws Of Gravity release - which is also the initial topic here. The band talks about this record represents a back-to-the-core coalescence of the its previous releases and approaches. They discuss their thoughts behind the choice to wait for new songs to be released before performing them. Other decision points are analyzed, like those behind sharing songwriting credits amongst each other and efforts to make sure each member’s musical voice is heard equally on each release and/or performance. The hosts and guests acknowledge the varying parameters of bluegrass, and the extent to which The Stringdusters feel compelled to adhere to them. We learn the importance of capturing the “expression factor” of each player, and how the lyrical and historical context of each song ultimately informs the performance. A discussion about the band’s Ladies and Gentlemen release leads to Nicki Bluhm. Nicki hooked the band up with Ryan Adams, and these two Dusters share some Ryan stories including how they prepared for the tour, their first performance with him, a spontaneous Black Sabbath cover, how Ryan “went to bat” for them on Colbert and some funny Ryan crowd interactions. Before Chris had to depart he discussed his thoughts behind his famous “Bluegrass Manifesto,” and how it attracted the ire of many bluegrass purists. Chris acknowledges that he was inspired by Bela Fleck to play bluegrass in the first place, and he denies that the “infamous” part of the band’s name was by design. When the focus shifts to Andy, we find out that he was in many New York bands including the Water Street Blues Band. He talks about how David Bromberg and Buddy Merriam stoked the fire of his interest in acoustic music, and how Merriam essentially taught him how to play bluegrass. We find out how Andy ended up meeting the Stringdusters’ guys and how he found his way in the band. Andy also shares some of his Stringdusters experiences, including the preparation for and execution of their Lockn set with Page McConnell and Phil Lesh. Then Seth and Rob take us home with a conversation of their own which starts with a discussion of the interview and then many music topics including the Dead and Company show the hosts had seen together just before completing this episode. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 47 - Brock Butler

    Rob and Seth sit down with Brock Butler of Perpetual Groove and discuss the ways he has post-hiatus been easing his way back into the band's world while still trying to "clean up and tighten up" his life after suffering from addiction. After an exploration of the band's new songwriting process and its near future, we go back to the PGroove roots in Savannah 20 years ago. We learn about how the initial line-up came about at the Savannah College of Art and Design, and how that lineup would morph into the classic Perpetual Groove line-up. We learn how they didn't even play a note before what would have been their first gig was shut down. We find out that half of the band was active military in the group's early days. Brock's view of the evolution the band's career is also explored. We get a window into the process behind the writing of Perpetual Groove favorites including, "Three Weeks," perhaps their most well-known original. We learn specific ways in which David Gilmour and Steve Kimock were influences. We find out that he was still "using" while working on the band's "Heal" cd. Toward the end of the interview, the trio talks a good bit about addiction, how low Brock got and how he found his way out. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. This episode was engineered by wTnS Intern Nathaniel Roberts. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 46 - Vince Herman

    Seth and Rob start the show by hinting at exciting podcast developments which they discuss in more depth during the post-interview portion of the episode. The duo sat down with with founding member and frontman of Leftover Salmon Vince Herman in honor of the much anticipated Leftover Salmon’s acoustic fall tour and their chat provides the bulk of this episode. The cozy confines of the Hunt House in Marietta, Georgia provide an ideal setting as Herman talks about how his eclectic musical taste grew out of his teenage experiences at the weeks-long multiple genre annual musician-interactive-heavy Augusta Heritage Festival in Elkins, West Virginia. Herman ultimately moved from a chilly West Virginia attic to the acoustic music promised land of Colorado and he came across a notice for a Left-Hand String Band show literally upon arrival. Left-Hand String Band and Herman’s eventual own band Salmon Heads would eventually give birth to Leftover Salmon. Vince talks about mandolin-toting football moves with David Grisman, the mythology of Peter Rowan, how having Jeff Sipe and Billy Payne in tow impacted LoS, how Waylon Jennings always hated country music and he even tells a harrowing David Allen Coe story. We learn how Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and David Bromberg were the main inspirations for the initial Leftover Salmon ethos, and how they, with John Bell recorded (in one take) a song Bromberg had taught Vince. We learn about the similarities between founding member Mark Vann and the banjo player who replaced him Andy Thorn and what LoS did the time Neil Young wandered onto their stage. A discussion about the tour with his son Silas which brought him to Hunt House ensues and we find out that this “Herman Original” was initially pretty much compelled by friends to pursue music, and how Georgia music-lovers had been impressed by him. Herman also discusses how Ralph Roddenbery specifically, and the Metro Atlanta music scene in general provided many highlights of his tour with his son. This podcast also once again offers the genesis of yet another eventual JamCruise activity, “Chemical Experiments with Mr. Wizard,” and Herman gives some hints toward the true significance of Mayor McCheese. Then a discussion about parallel universes serves as an ideal prelude to an, at times heavy discussion about Col. Bruce Hampton and his final performance. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. This episode was engineered by wTnS Intern Nathaniel Roberts. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 45 - Joel Cummins and Andy Farag (Umphrey's McGee)

    Seth and Rob go backstage at Chastain Park Amphitheater where the hosts sat down with Andy Farag (percussion) and Joel Cummins (keyboards/vocals) of Umphrey’s McGee and discuss future Halloween’s and how sharing a five-bedroom Chicago apartment while recording their latest album ("it's not us." due out in January 2018) allowed the band to “live and breathe Umphrey’s music” while they recorded. We get a window into the creative process including how a piece of the song “Educated Guess” ended up on, “Similar Skin.” The musicians take us back to pre-Umphrey’s days, how they met, the significance of the band Stomper Bob and Andy’s Father. We learn about the near-demise of Umphrey’s when original drummer Mike Mirro informed the band he was leaving, and then about how the band was reenergized and refocused when drummer Kris Myers joined, and how Myers, in turn, influenced some of their arrangements. Joel discusses how key their attentive fan base is to the process of how certain sections of improv go from being “Repeated Stews” to becoming composed songs, and how he “found his way” in a guitar-heavy band, and “setlist probation.” Andy talks about how Giovanni Hidalgo and Eric Bobo inspired him and how he benefits from Jake’s percussive approach to guitar. Perhaps best of all we get window into the thought process behind “on the fly” setlist decisions and the story behind their collaboration with Aaron “Gene Ween” Freeman and how explained his previous “some Umphrey’s McGee Bullshit” comment to the band. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 44 - The Main Squeeze

    Before diving into the world of the Main Squeeze, Seth and Rob briefly share their thoughts on the loss of Tom Petty and the recent horror at a Las Vegas music festival. In honor of the interview being conducted on the 50th Anniversary of the release of Jimi Hendrix’ landmark Are You Experienced record, it begins with guitarist Max Newman talking about how Hendrix inspired him to put down the cello and start playing guitar. Vocalist Corey Frye and Keyboardist Ben “Smiley” Silverstein soon join in to walk us through how a summer camp in New York and the Indiana University were vital parts of the genesis of The Main Squeeze. We learn how Randy Jackson became interested the band and helped them nurture their “sound without a sound.” The band talks about its judicious use of modern studio techniques when producing their most recent cd, the aptly-titled “Without a Sound.” We hear about the band co-billing with The Roots and Jane’s Addiction at a Super Bowl party, wowing crowds in Asia while winning an international music contest and how a late night JazzFest guest appearance from Shaun Martin of Snarky Puppy turned into a moment of on stage resilience and hilarity. Rob mentions how the band’s “Colorful Midst” reminded him of the Godfather of this Podcast, Col. Bruce Hampton which unfolds into a conversation about Bruce’s final performance and particularly its impact on the young guitarist, Brandon “Taz” Neiderauer.

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    wTnS Tweener F - Drew Emmitt

    Seth and Rob talk about Leftover Salmon’s stripped-down tour this autumn, during part one of two in an Inside Out wTnS series on the band. Drew Emmitt elaborated on a variety of topics backstage at the Hampton 70 event earlier this year at the Fox Theatre, during which he correctly predicts the overwhelming nature of the night that lay before him and an all-star cast. Emmitt talks about meeting the Col. and touring with the Aquarium Rescue Unit, how Vince Herman can sometimes “turn into Bruce for a while” and how the COl. taught Leftover Salmon to toss away preconceived notions and play from their soul, instead of their mind. Drew also discusses a more creative touring schedule in 2018, how Salmon evolved while touring with Bill Payne and Jeff Sipe, and recording in Nashville with Waylon Jennings, Earl Scruggs and John Bell. Fans of Hot Tuna, Neil Young and Phish will enjoy his stories of collaborations with each artist. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. This episode was engineered by wTnS Intern Nathaniel Roberts. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 43 - Marcus King

    This week on Episode 43, Rob and Seth release their interview with Marcus King in advance of his band's first-ever "Family Reunion" festival, which will happen at the Pisgah Brewing Company on October 6 & 7.” Marcus covers a bevy of topics, including his early days guesting in his father's Christian blues band, growing up in South Carolina and how current stalwarts in the music scene (Jimmy Herring, Brendan Bayliss, Jake Cinninger and Snarky Puppy) inspired him to explore a variety of tones and to go home and practice his guitar more. The young phenom also speaks on creating new music and why he shares publishing with his band mates, some of his, perhaps surprising influences, his approach to performing as a guest musician and even demonstrates a knowledge of the long-lost legendary guitarist Danny Gatton. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 42 - John Bell and Denny Walley

    Seth and Rob update the listeners on the coming wTnS Live event at City Winery on September 19th. Then Turner explains who Denny Walley is and describes his own efforts to procure this interview backstage at Hampton70. Denny talks about his Colonel memories, including the fact that while he was in a band called The Detours, he was at one point in the same room with Colonel Bruce Hampton, but the two would not meet until many years later. Denny talks about going to a desert high school with Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart and James "Motorhead" Sherwood, and how Motor recommended Denny to Zappa, and the strange way Walley endeared himself to FZ which would ultimately land him on Zappa's "Bongo Fury" Tour. Denny also discusses Capt. Beefheart's unusual creative process, and how a guy named John French was key to its success. He also tells about how he and Motorhead blew their side project's chance at a major record deal because they pre-crashed an Elton John party in hilarious fashion. Rob shares a story about how he blew his one chance to meet Zappa and then we return to backstage at Atlanta's Fox Theater for the full chat with Widespread Panic's John Bell. Bell talks extensively about Col. Bruce Hampton and shares a few legendary Bruce stories. Bell also reveals that he is considerably less enthusiastic about seeing concerts himself these days than he had been not too long ago. He apparently even has to be careful not to lose himself in the music of his opening acts. Rob responds to Bell's point about Colonel giving him the inspiration to be himself on stage by asking about Bell's improvised raps, and Bell reluctantly discusses this unique talent, eventually identifying Van Morrison's as his chief influence (leading Turner to suggest that WsP cover Morrison's "Real Real Gone" with Randall Bramblett and the MegaBlasters). Bell also explains how lineup changes have invigorated Widespread Panic over the years, and specifically speaks to how they worked keyboardist JoJo Hermann's clavinet into their sound in the 90s. Then Seth and Rob argue over how their next live event is billed, and Turner tells his story of being calmed down by Bell during the dreary post-Hampton70 chaos. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 41 - Tim Carbone

    Rob and Seth discuss their experiences with Railroad Earth including Rob’s memories of when he saw RRE front man Todd Scheaffer’s band, From Good Homes open for Bob Weir and Ratdog the night after Jerry Garcia died. A brief discussion of this podcast’s fast-approaching live event at City Winery Atlanta September 19th takes us to to Seth and Rob sitting down with Tim Carbone (The Contribution, Railroad Earth) for a thorough examination of what makes him a truly special human and musician. Tim talks about how this summer Railroad Earth was forced to adjust to the temporary-but-still-painful loss of founding member, multi-instrumentalist Andy Goessling - who was "on the disabled list." We learn how they relied on top notch players to step up, sit in and help out - particularly Chris Pandolfi and Matt Slocumb who kept things compelling for RRE loyalists by being part of bringing forth unusual versions of songs in the RRE lexicon - specifically Slocumb on, “Morning Flies." Carbone explains in detail exactly how Psychedelia earned itself an assist with regard to the genesis of his adventurous side project, The Contribution. Tim talks about the band first doing a session in a cabin in Woodacre, California, then working in Laughing Tiger Studios in San Rafeal and eventually recording at Bob Weir’s state-of-the-art TRI Studios in Marin County - elaborating specifically about TRI’s "microphone guru," Rick Vargas. Vargas was vital to the success of their recording and Tim still uses techniques he learned from Vargas during this time. He also relates how he initially became interested in violin, and then how his personal experiences (including a stint playing harmonica in a blues band) and hearing artists like Paul Butterfield and Don “Sugarcane” Harris shaped his approach to playing. Tim tells of his days in The Blue Sparks From Hell, and their string-band bluegrass alter-ego band (each with future Railroad Earth bandmate Andy Goessling). Tim recounts some of the legendary New York shows he saw as an audience member, including his various Fleetwood Mac experiences, detailed accounts of his favorite Traffic shows and his memory of the legendary Grateful Dead SUNY 1970 Halloween show. He also speaks of shaking hands with Muddy Waters, playing in bands with Rick Danko, attending Danko's funeral and meeting future band mates and other significant folks at New York’s legendary music club, The Wetlands. We learn of how Railroad Earth landed the Telluride Bluegrass Festival for their 10th gig, and how the band would unfold from there. He talks about working with various engineers including John Siket of Phish “phame.” Tim conveys what it is like working with RRE’s brilliant Todd Scheaffer, identifying specifically Scheaffer’s feel for melody, knowledge of songwriting and familiarity with literature as reasons for Todd's excellence. He also shares his memory of sitting in with the Allman Brothers’ Band, and then how he, and in turn Railroad Earth evolved from casually collaborating with, to becoming full-on recording partners on Ashes and Dust with jamband icon Warren Haynes. Other icons discussed are Buddy Cage, David Nelson, the timeless David Bromberg and this program's Godfather, Col. Bruce Hampton. We hear music from Tim’s band The Contribution, including the debut of “So Long, Farewell” in its entirety, which is paired with “Raven’s Child” from Railroad Earth’s most recent cd Captain Nowhere. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds Studio. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 40 - Big Something

    The Big Something high-stepped it into the ad hoc studios just blocks away from the 2017 Sweetwater Music and Arts Festival and sat down with Rob and Seth for a playful interview that captures their unique personalities. After a brief introduction from Big Something fan and collaborator Kris Myers (drums/vocals Umphrey’s McGee) we learn about the band’s songwriting process, the importance of its hidden member Paul Interdonato, the pluses and minuses of being from central North Carolina and how Buck Williams and Mike Mills ended up at a Big Something gig in Wilmington, North Carolina. We also learn about just how important the producer John Custer has been to the band’s development and the low-key way he brings forth his pivotal insight. Custer’s uses his sense of humor and general good nature to make what otherwise might be difficult-to-receive criticism and insight. The band speaks of their close friend and mentor Lee Crumpton in the interview, then the founder of the Homegrown Music Network himself joins Seth and Rob for the outtro to talk about how he first heard of Big Something, his time managing them and his recent experiences at the Lockn Festival and Big Something’s own “Big Wha?” festival. Music from episode: All Rights Reserved - Big Something Song - Album "Waves" - Tumbleweed "Tumbleweed" - Tumbleweed “Song For Us" - Live @ Floyd Fest 2017 wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    wTnS Tweener E - Jim Loughlin Backstage @ UM

    Thanks to the insight of the dynamic Robbie Williams (Umphrey's McGee, Finger Tight), co-host Rob Turner was able to grab Jim Loughlin of moe. at the recent Chastain Park Amphitheater UM show and bring the new Georgia resident to Seth Weiner backstage for a quick intermission chat. White Denim is discussed first, as they had just thrown down a fiery set and the show hosts and The Loughlin's are all fans of that excellent band. We get a quick summary of the moist and bulge-rewarding most recent moe.down. Then Jim talks about how he and the rest of moe. learned the terrible news that their bandmate, Rob Derhak had cancer. Loughlin talks about the two shows the band has played since they had to digest that supremely unfortunate news, what Rob's prognosis is and what the band's tentative plans are moving forward in the near future. He also reveals some of what is behind the band's preparation for its collaboration with Phil Lesh. The hosts end by welcoming Jim to the Atlanta music community with an invitation to their September 19th live event at City Winery and by offering their assistance should he decide to put together a Georgia-based side project. Rob also thanks Jim's precious Yankees for the way they have nurtured his nephew Rick Surum since they drafted him in the 16th Round this year.

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    Episode 39 - Digesting Baker's Dozen with Scott Bernstein

    Seth and Rob welcome Scott Bernstein of YEM Blog and Jambase to first discuss Phish in general, then to offer a candid show-by-show assessment of Phish's legendary (yes, ACTUALLY legendary) 13 night "Baker's Dozen" run at MSG. Bernstein offers his brilliant insight on specific musical moments, and how these and other chestnuts the band delivered factor into the band's storied musical career. Turner has been seeing the band since its mid-80s club days, however Weiner who has been seeing them since the mid 90's still sees them frequently in its 3.0 era. Each host offers occasional perspectives of his own on specific jams, covers, new songs, even that mashup/medley thing - and other delightful Phish minutia. Turner also adds the thoughts of other Phish aficionados by reading some of his favorite quotes from Phish reviews written during the run. However it is truly Bernstein's encyclopedic knowledge of this outstanding band which drives this episode and makes it worthy of even the most hardcore phan's ear. Things DO get a tad contentious at points, and there are also scattered musical moments from the run sprinkled in including a couple of fun performances from the final show which end the episode.

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    wTnS Live Debut Preview

    Turner and Seth chit chat on tomorrow's debut of the wTnS Live Series @ City Winery.

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    Episode 38 - Jon Fishman

    wTnS sits down with Jon Fishman from the band Phish for a short but sweet interview. The episode starts with Seth and Rob first discussing their new live series (Inside Out wTnS Live) set to take place at the Atlanta's City Winery. The debut is on August 9th with a Jerry Garcia Tribute. Turner then quizzes Weiner on his Phish'y 40th Birthday gift, graciously arranged by his wife, Amy. They then play the entire Jon Fishman interview from backstage at Atlanta's Fox Theater May 1, 2017. Much of the early part of the interview focuses on Col. Bruce Hampton, as it was conducted the afternoon of that glorious-became-tragic event. Fishman also talks about "gauzing," re-learning his own material, a Capt. Beefheart song he would love to have Phish cover and which Halloween cover record provided him the biggest challenge preparation-wise.

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    Episode 37 - Voodoo Visionary

    Seth and Rob first announce their new live series “wTnS Live” at the Atlanta City Winery. They explain how they will be offering evenings of music, philanthropy and podcasting. While there is a pilot episode on August 9th, the first event is September 19th, and it features DJ Logic and this episode’s primary guest Voodoo Visionary. Before diving into the Voodoo Visionary vision, Seth and Rob take a quick call with Perpetual Groove frontman Brock Butler and find out about how the band is clicking personally and professionally better than they have in years, maybe ever. The trio discuss some upcoming Perpetual Groove gigs and some of their history - and these three will sit down again next month in Atlanta for a more detailed conversation for use in a future Perpetual Groove-centric episode. Then the hosts sit down with Turner’s favorite young Atlanta touring band, Voodoo Visionary. The band relates their unusual beginnings - rising from the world of rugby, playing all-improv gigs in non-traditional music venues, having a singer slam in what the other band members would later learn was his first live performance, finding their horn section in the most organic way possible, and more. Voodoo has a large following in Atlanta, but we get into some of the mechanisms and planning involved in turning the corner to become a national act. Their latest cd “Off The Ground,” is discussed extensively. The interview is conducted at WonderDog Sound Studios in Marietta, Georgia - where this great new release was recorded. The band discusses why they chose WonderDog and some of the unique benefits of that studio. The episode ends with a discussion with the studio’s owner Mark Michaelson and long-time engineer Josh Thane. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 36 - Randall Bramblett

    Rob and Seth sit down with Randall Bramblett in his own house and after first discussing his two most recent brilliant releases "Juke Joint at the Edge of the World" and "Devil Music," they go back to the 70s and move through his fascinating career. We learn how working with Tommy Talton and the band Cowboy led to him meeting and ultimately touring with Gregg Allman. He speaks of his days with the "jazz arm" of the Allman Brothers Band community, Sea Level. Bramblett also speaks of working with Levon Helm, and meeting and touring with Steve Winwood. His success with Winwood would unfold into him being a vital part of the enormously successful 1994 Traffic reunion tour, and we get some insight into that Bramblett era. Widespread Panic fans might be curious to learn about how Randall ended up in that family, and what it was like to tour with them while their guitarist's health was rapidly declining. We also get a follow-up call in the outtro during which Randall speaks about his most recent Atlanta play (it was a DOOZIE) and he reflects on his friends who have recently passed - Col. Bruce Hampton, Gregg Allman and Jimmy Nalls. The introduction also includes a brief interview Seth conducted with the young jamband Spafford. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 35 - David Barbe

    Seth and Rob are joined on the phone by Patterson Hood and they discuss, among other things, Drive-By Truckers' history, their politically-charged latest album, "American Band" and their unique songwriting process. Then Patterson talks glowingly about David Barbe to set the table for the interview Seth and Rob traveled to the University of Georgia to conduct. They discuss that school's Music Business Program, which we learn has grown to attract top notch academic candidates who discover and/or nurture their areas of industry interest. The program also features guest lecturers from across the industry including Jason Isbell's manager Tracey Thomas, Deerhunter and Atlas Sound front man Bradford Cox and Hood himself. Rob and Seth also explore Barbe's musical career, and we learn of the ups and downs of Mercyland, and how perfectly timed his professional liaison with Bob Mould was. Their band, Sugar would produce one of the greatest records of the 80s, "Copper Blue." wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 33 - Zipper Club

    This episode features Rob Turner and Seth Weiner each giving their review of the 2017 Shaky Knees Festival in Atlanta, Georgia. The hosts discuss the festival and the performances of acts like LCD Soundsystem, Sylvan Esso, Great Peacock, Saint Motel, Hamilton Leithauser, J. Roddy Walston and The Business, Warpaint, Bleachers, Phoenix, Ryan Adams and more. Then we hear an interview Weiner and Turner conducted the same weekend with the three core members of Zipper Club. We hear how the band’s debut tour was with Tears For Fears. Mason James relates how important his years with Cerebral Ballsy were, and the significance of having a punk ethos in general - whether it means expressing yourself fully, or pissing people off or both. Lissie Trullie explains how her Emory professor father’s record collection initially turned her onto music, and how she has been inspired going from writing alone in her own band to collaborating in this one. Drummer Damar Davis chimes in at well, discussing his early days as a musician, and bringing forth effusive love of Led Zeppelin and a stylin’ diversion to a question about the mysterious origins of the band’s name. Among the many other topics are the band’s songwriting plans moving forward, their interest in improvisation, working with Smashing Pumpkins guitarist James Iha and the band’s, apparently very serious problem with parking tickets wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 32 - Jennifer Hartswick

    Seth and Rob discuss the death of Chris Cornell and curious decisions made in the wake of the cancellation of the Pemberton Music Festival. Then they discuss Atlanta’s fantastic SweetWater 420 Festival before giving way to an interview with singer/trumpeter/songwriter Jennifer Hartswick which was recorded during this same festival. Hartswick explains how a Nigel Hall-arranged gig at Tipitina’s in New Orleans led to her recent collaboration with supreme bassist, Christian McBride. The two immediately became friends, and after a few months were in Trey Anastasio’s “Barn” recording studio working in a trio format with guitarist Nick Cassarino. We get some stories from this session, including the unusual way she talked McBride into recording a duet with her. We also hear about how her childhood in a strong musical family, and then high school years in an musically excellent rural Vermont school would lead her to musicians and future band mates like Dave Grippo and Trey Anastasio. She also tells of how she was invited into the Trey Anastasio Band, how she created of some of that band’s signature songs, as well as offers some insight into her various collaborations w/ Umphrey’s McGee and other bands. The hour’ish long interview traverses many other topics, including Hartswick commenting on her sit-ins with Phish, the many, sometimes offensive offers she and band mate, trombonist Natalie Cressman have received to play in all-women and other bands and Turner even tells Hartswick an affecting story about her own husband, bassist Chris Chew. Before wrapping up the episode, Seth reads a couple of emails from careful listeners who noticed subtle errors Rob made during Episode 31. wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Episode 31 - Jared Watson (Dirty Heads)

    InsideOut wTnS returns with a full episode focusing on Jared Watson, one of the founding members of the ground-breakingly genre-defying Dirty Heads. Weiner and Turner first relate some of their experiences at the SweetWater 420 Festival, before they jump into a chat with Watson by discussing everyone’s favorite herb. We get a window into the Dirty Heads’ creating and recording process, as well as learn about how Watson found and became addicted to vicodin, and then how love and support, particularly from his unfailingly loyal wife, helped him overcome the demons this drug would unleash upon him. The show closes with the hosts discussing their upcoming interviews with Jennifer Hartswick and Jon Phillips, as well as the recently departed Godfather of this Podcast - Colonel Bruce Hampton. "TOO CRUEL”/"DAY BY DAY”/"ON MY WAY”/"HIGHER AND HIGHER" PERFORMED BY DIRTY HEADS COURTESY OF FIVE SEVEN MUSIC wTnS is Produced by Rob Turner and Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS Instagram: Facebook:

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    Tribute to Col. Bruce Hampton

    This is not an episode. This is a tribute to the man who breathed Zambi life into this program and into just about every conscious person in the organic music world, Col. Bruce Hampton. Hosts Rob Turner and Seth Weiner were the only journalists set up backstage at the Hampton 70! Tribute at Atlanta’s Fox Theatre May 1, 2017. In cosmic keeping with the truly singular history of The Colonel, the event remains one of the most powerfully joyous musical evenings in Atlanta entertainment history, despite the fact that it ended with the death of the man being celebrated. A tragedy to all in attendance except perhaps the man who began his journey to the beyond in arguably his own ideal fashion, on stage with his favorite musicians, shining a light on an outstanding young player and goofing on just about everyone in attendance while the band played on. In this episode the hosts share some of their own thoughts, and then portions of some of the many interviews they conducted at The Fox that day. Here, The Colonel’s friends Jeff Sipe, John Bell, Jon Fishman and Rev. Jeff Mosier talk about all things Colonel. These musicians who knew him well explain many examples of why Col. Bruce Hampton was widely considered not just a shaman, but a particularly shaman-tastic one, even when he was having tea with other shamans. This program believes that whether you are a musician or a fan who was at The Fox Theatre on that night, the best way to honor The Colonel is to remember the event and his death not with sadness, but with laughter. It was frightening and confusing that night. But as time passes, it should be increasingly revealed that it was even more of a delightfully twisted final exclamation point on a joyfully “outside” life that touched an absolutely stunning array of people. As Jeff Mosier says, “choose gratitude.”

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    Episode 30 - JoJo Hermann (The Bad Plus and Deer Tick)

    This episode Seth and Rob take a phone call from Reid Anderson of The Bad Plus, and topics discussed include some of the band’s adventurous releases, working with Josh Redman and Bill Frisell, the differences between European and US audiences and his band mate Ethan Iverson’s famous blog. Then Jojo Hermann of Widespread Panic comes in and lets our listeners know about his new band Slim Wednesday and the recent recording they did in Atlanta. JoJo also takes us back to New York in the 80s, where he would initially cut his teeth as a musician. But we also learn why he chose to move to Mississippi and how that in turn led him to finding his way into Widespread Panic - and he shares some stories from his years with those icons of jam. Then we get a small window into a poolside chat conducted by Weiner’s alter-ego LL PoolJ. He chats with Deer Tick about a few things including their next (planned to be a double) album, the sense of community among their peer bands and bonding excretory experiences.

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    WTNS Tweener D - Jason Crosby (Tribute to Prince)

    Seth and Rob return with their fourth mini “Tweener” episode to observe the one-year anniversary of Prince’s death by revisiting Episode 19 of InsideOut wTnS. Master musician Jason Crosby told a great story about when he was in Blind Boys of Alabama, Prince attended one of their shows and ended up sitting in. This, and the tale of how he met and reunited with Bruce Springsteen are each lifted and included in this mini episode. Seth and Rob also talk a bit about Radiohead, publicists, research, the upcoming interview with Voodoo Visionary at Wonder Dog Sound Studio, Rob’s new side Podcast, anticipation and about how InsideOut wTnS will have a presence at the SweetWater 420 Festival in Atlanta. Produced by Rob Turner Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS

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    Episode 29 - Steve Berlin

    Seth and Rob give updates on recent shows they have seen including Allah-Las and Radiohead before playing an interview they conducted with Steve Berlin of Los Lobos. Berlin reveals that his punk band The Flesh Eaters will reunite for tour next January and that he will co-produce the next Blind Boys of Alabama record. The listener is taken through the early part of Berlin’s career as a performer and producer going back to his earliest days in Los Angeles, playing with The Blasters and winning Grammys with Los Lobos. Berlin talks about working on now-legendary projects with T. Bone Burnett, and about how everything changed the day guitarist/vocalist David Hidalgo brought the song “Will The Wolf Survive” to the band. We also hear a great story about how the band repeatedly helped themselves to Prince’s equipment from his neighboring studio around the same time, and how the almost got caught. Berlin talks about Los Lobos’ work through the seminal “Kiko” release and elaborates on the one time the band played a show while high on mushrooms. He also related about how meticulous the band Faith No More was when he worked with them and about his recent work performing and recording with Diamond Rugs. Produced by Rob Turner Engineered by Josh Thane of Wonder Dog Sounds ( Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS

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    Episode 28 - Moon Taxi + Mike Greenfield (Lotus)

    This episode features interviews with 4/5ths of Moon Taxi and with Mike Greenfield, the drummer of Lotus. Before, between and after these interviews, Seth and Rob chat with Matt Wilson, the man behind Hampton 70, the Atlanta event at which a stunning array of improvisational musicians will descend upon that cities' Fox Theater to celebrate the Godfather of this podcast, not to mention American “jam music,” Col. Bruce Hampton. They discuss how this event was created, how musicians were procured, who will be musical directors, how music will be selected and how the Colonel, who reveals he initially did not even want to do this, will handle the fact that everyone will want to perform with him. The Colonel also dishes on many other topics including David Bromberg, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Derek Trucks, time, space, dimension, zambi, embarrassment and the beauty of being The Colonel. Moon Taxi take Seth and Rob back to band's early days, explaining how they managed to self-release their first record. They also discuss the challenges and benefits of having so many songwriters in the band, milestones, goals, playing Letterman’s show just before Dave retired and how one of their songs inspired a Bonnaroo collaboration with Derek Trucks. Finally Mike Greenfield of Lotus talks about the challenges of joining with the band when they were already firmly established, and of the beauty of playing in a way that makes his band mates shine. He also chats a bit about playing with members of the Disco Biscuits in Electron, and how he was able to be with his wife for the birth of his daughter even while Lotus was on tour. Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth: Twitter: @InsideoutWTNS

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    Episode 27 - Big Gigantic

    This episode features Jeremy Salken and Dominic Lalli....who ARE Big Gigantic... After a brief update from Rob and Seth, they get into it with Big Gigantic, starting with each musician's very beginnings playing as children.. and move through the compelling career of this groundbreaking act. The duo explains how their lives and musical experiences would ultimately find them collaborating in Colorado and working together to create BG. Jeremy talks about seeing Global Funk Council at "The Goat" while he was living in Breckenridge. A spontaneous invitation to jump on stage that night would quickly evolve into him touring with the band. Salken would move to Colorado and link up with The Motet. This would lead to him joining forces with Lalli who had also been suggested by a friend to seek out The Motet. Lalli talks about going from learning basic computer skills to collaborating with members of String Cheese Incident and sitting in with bands like STS9 and Pnuma Trio as Big Gigantic was getting off of the ground. The band talks about extensively about their career and these two fellas reveal themselves to be extremely focused and conscientious lads. They assure us that they effort to be in a constant date of improvement, particularly with regard to their light show. We learn about how the band has remained staunchly independent from the start, and how they turned an opportunity to play Red Rocks into the Rowdytown Festival. The episode ends with Rob seeking a catharsis by revealing embarrassing things about himself, and a full version of a Big Gigantic song discussed in the interview. Twitter: @insideoutwtns Email:

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    WTNS Tweener C - Fools Paradise (Paul Levine, Benny Bloom, and Tom Hamilton)

    This episode focuses on the rapidly approaching Fool’s Paradise extravaganza and includes interviews with festival promoter Paul Levine, as well as performers Eric “Benny” Bloom of Lettuce and Tom Hamilton of Joe Russo’s Almost Dead. Levine discusses how the seeds of the festival’s location were planted when an Umphrey’s McGee festival (which also featured Lettuce) was moved from a civil war fort to the idyllic St. Augustine Amphitheatre in St. Augustine, FL two years ago. He talks about his career as a promoter, about working with Lettuce to curate the festival (“we’ve always enjoyed working together… doing things to promote and advance funk music”), and about an excursion which this year will be offered to Fool’s Paradise attendees (“you can go on a boat for a couple hours and have wine and beer with some of the guys from Lettuce”). Then a portion of last fall’s Lockn’ Festival enters the episode where Benny Bloom talks about meeting, then playing with Lettuce for the first time. Bloom talks about how he would quickly become a key part of the band and assume the trumpet role full-time, and about why he particularly enjoys playing for the funk/jam band world. The dynamic Tom Hamilton, who will be performing with Joe Russo’s Almost Dead at this year’s Fool’s Paradise, steps up to the plate next and talks about the boundless spontaneity of the band. He also compares what its like playing in a band with the drummer as the “Point Man” in Almost Dead to being the “Point Man” himself in Billy and The Kids, the ensemble with the Dead’s own Bill Kreutzmann. The entire Hamilton interview is included in Episode 20 of Inside Out WTNS.

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    Episode 26 - Al Schnier and Jim Loughlin (moe.)

    Episode 26 focuses on the organic rock band, moe. First, reigning “Mayor of moe.down,” Rex Thomson joins and relates how he earned this coveted band honor. Then, Seth and Rob sit with Al Schnier and Jim Loughlin on the band’s bus and discuss how a young moe. got the opportunity to jam with Bob Weir while on the 1997 Furthur Festival, and how a couple of years later Al charted music for Phil Lesh. Jim relates his experience returning to an evolved moe. after his brief period away from them around the same time, and Schnier and Loughlin go into detail on improvisation, spontaneity and songwriting. However, industry folks may be most compelled by the thinking behind the band’s recent decisions first to let their manager of 20-plus years go, and then to defray management duties across the band. Schnier talks about being overwhelmed by his initial efforts to take on all of the management tasks alone, and we learn how the band resolved this and as a result, became a band intimately involved in every aspect of their operations. The episode concludes with moe. performing brand new Loughlin (“Don’t Wanna Be”) and Schnier (“Angel”) compositions in their entirety, on the band’s 2017 Winter Tour.

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    WTNS Tweener #B - Chris Kuroda

    Seth and Rob revel in Seth’s return to Atlanta before discussing Bob Dylan, recent online music articles, and their interview with Chris Kuroda at Lockn' a few months ago. This episodes shares clips of from said interview, first about how Kuroda learned many things on the fly in his early days with Phish, and how his responsibilities became more focused during these years. Hear him rave about his programmer Andrew Giffin, who provides Kuroda great flexibility as Giffin can adjust the console (by doing things like re-writing code at the root level) to fit CK’s ever-evolving and exacting needs. Kuroda also discusses how his familiarity with Madison Square Garden may increasingly benefit Phish shows there moving forward, as he now has access to house lights located all over the room, “we plan on really digging into that now that I have a lot of programming for it.” This is surely great news for anyone holding tickets to any……or ALL of the band’s forthcoming “Baker’s Dozen” run of shows at this iconic venue." The bulk of the original interview focuses on the details around Kuroda and the band’s decision last year to incorporate video elements into their already-superb presentation, and how Kuroda executed this transition – please visit Episode 18 to hear the entire original interview. Before signing off Seth and Rob discuss Brandi Carlile’s performances at The Avett Brothers At The Beach, their destination festival in Mexico, and where they want to interview Jason Isbell and Oteil Burbridge in the future.

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    Episode 25 - Chris Mitchell

    Rob updates us on some recent activity in the Bowie world and Seth fills us on the music and other moments unique to One Big Holiday and The Avett Brother's At The Beach events in Mexico, before they run their interview with one of the most respected sound men in music, Chris Mitchell of Umphrey's McGee. Mitchell speaks of the band's dive into surround sound and compares his approaches with those of The Grateful Dead's long-time front of house sound engineer Dan Healy. We learn how Mitchell's career began as a sort of courtship, and ultimately moved through a range of festivals and artists (including Tracy Chapman, Kitaro and G. Love + Special Sauce) before his friend Jason Brodsky linked him up with The Grateful Dead's Mickey Hart. We learn about Chris' days with Mickey, including the challenges of mixing "two dolphins fucking" and why Hart has a reputation for having a short temper. Umphans might be particularly interested to learn about how he ended up with their band. Chris tells of how his uber-collaborative relationship with his predecessor Kevin Browning assisted in his transition and how the two of them remain in close contact, actively focused on improving the Umphrey's McGee experience. He also gives away a few secrets of how he brings forth some nuanced vocal trickery.

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    WTNS Tweener #A - Jefferson Waful

    This, the first "Best of"-style Tweener Episode revisits the Episode 6 interview with Umphrey's McGee Lighting Designer Jefferson Waful. Waful explains how Phish Lighting Designer Chris Kuroda's trust in collaboration in turn inspired Jefferson to trust another LD and spontaneously collaborate with him at Wanee.......and what Jefferson would later learn about said LD after their work was done. This mini-episode also features Seth's update from the Castaway and One Big Holiday events (complete with Rob begging Seth to ask Jim James about the record his friends The Slip reportedly have "in the can"). Rob also reveals his idea to have Blueground Undergrass over to Wonder Dog Sound Studios for an interview and performance.

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    Episode 24 - Brendan Bayliss part 2

    Seth calls in to brief all of us on Jam Cruise. Then the Brendan Bayliss interview continues and we hear his memories of Umphrey's landmark Bonnaroo performance, his early experiences with eventual peers like moe. and The Disco Biscuits and his feelings on criticism of his work. He also tells some stories about playing The Jammys with Sinead O'Connor, Mavis Staples, Huey Lewis and Jeff Coffin. Brendan explains the band's hand-signals, and how Joshua Redman first thought they were kidding about them, but ended up finding them helpful when improvising with UM. Brendan talks about how fan feedback impacts the band with regard to the venues at which they play. Then he speaks of how his new release "Zonkey" may signal the end of the band's annual mashup-themed Halloween shows, about failing to sit on the John-John while recording at Abbey Road, and about the brand new material the band is working on now.

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    Episode 23 - Brendan Bayliss part 1

    Rob and Seth announce the new co-branding with Live For Live Music and welcome their new listeners. They make an appeal for an interactive relationship - particularly with regard to the coming episode on webcasting. Then they interview Brendan Bayliss, founding member of Umphrey's McGee. We learn about how at a young age he moved from being an avid sports fan to a guitar enthusiast. His father's brilliant tennis career is discussed, as it found Brendan moving to and from Massachusetts, on to Indiana, and ultimately attending Norte Dame. We are taken through the late 90s South Bend music scene, including the UM-historical significance of Ali Baba's Tahini. Brendan tells of how he went from playing in a band with eventual Umphrey's McGee bassist Ryan "Pony" Stasik, to forming Umphrey's McGee. He explains his thinking behind the pivotal and selfless choice to extract Jake Cinninger from the charred ruins of Ali Baba's Tahini and bring him into the Umphold. We also hear the story of how Vince Iwinski became the band's manager, and how former front of house engineer Kevin Browning's shift to management has greatly benefitted the band. Brendan also elaborates on the beauty of gradual growth, and the not-so-beautiful way Steve Miller behaved like an asshole at Christmas Jam a few years back. Episode also includes multiple mentions of Marc Maron's interview with Derek Trucks. Why? Because it was superb.

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    Episode 22 - Pete Sears

    Rob and Seth get a lesson on many kinds of music from Britain to San Francisco in the 60s, 70s and 80s from the legendary Pete Sears. Sears tells stories from throughout the first half of his career - from his early days with the rockabilly group The Spitfires up until he became one of the four finalists to replace Brent Mydland in The Grateful Dead. Hear about his days splitting time between working on seminal Rod Stewart records in England and discovering the world of San Francisco Bay Area music. His work with the brilliant-yet-volatile Paul Kantner and Grace Slick is explored. We hear his account of an infamous cancellation, and the ensuing chaos at the 1978 Lorelei Festival during which Pete's treasured bass ("Dragon," a sibling of sorts, of Garcia's iconic "Tiger" guitar), was among the equipment destroyed or stolen by the crowd - although Sears' bass DID survive, and would be returned to his some three and a half decades later. Time did not permit for his more recent years to be discussed much, so he will have to return to the show sometime. Episode also includes Seth's updates from his work on the high seas with Holy Ship and Rob's reports on his experiences at Atlanta's "Holiday Hootenanny" and the Umphrey's McGee New Year's run in Chicago.

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    Hanukkah Special

    In this special Hanukkah episode, Rob interviews Seth about his life-changing ten-day trip to Israel, on the Honeymoon Israel program, this past autumn. Seth explains about how he applied, interviewed and was ultimately accepted by for his wife Amy and him to be a part of this interesting Group Venture. While Seth does not consider himself a "practicing Jew," he relates how he and his wife had a bit of a spiritual experience traveling and connecting with with 19 other Atlanta area couples. Seth takes us through his wife and his experience shopping, meeting people, doing Shabbat and gaining perspective in The Holy Land.

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    Episode 21 - Stanton Moore

    Seth and Rob sit down with Galactic's drummer and discuss everything from his early days as a prodigy working in Marty Hurley's drum line, to Galactic's recent work with the wonderful Erica Falls. They discuss his two books and the delight he takes from seeing other drummers put their personalized spin on his own personalized, decidedly New Orleans approach. Stanton talks about how being in the mindset of a jalopy or a 300 lb woman walking down the street carrying a bucket of chicken can help find an appropriate New Orleans groove. A slew of musicians are discussed, particularly George Porter Jr., Bernard Purdie and Russell Batiste. Stanton talks specifically about meeting and developing a relationship with Batiste. Stanton talks about why it is difficult for New Orleans drummers to be "go-to" studio musicians and vocally demonstrates a variety of grooves and how said grooves were developed (a favorite of Turner's). He talks about how generous New Orleans musicians can be and how Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard recently remembered being in attendance when Porter Jr. allowed a very, very young Stanton Moore to sit in with his band. It is a delight to listen to this now-legendary drummer describe how he brings, as Seth says, "his shtick to the stick."

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    Episode 20 - Tom Hamilton

    Seth and Rob sit down with guitarist Tom Hamilton and discuss his work with Brothers Past, American Babies, Joe Russo's Almost Dead, Billy and The Kids and other groups. Tom explains the various ways some of these bands approach Grateful Dead music, and relates his experiences working with the surviving members of The Grateful Dead. Tom also reveals that Louis CKs eulogy of Robin Williams served as an influence for the creation of what would become the American Babies' fantastic new cd, "An Epic Battle Between Light & Dark." Also discussed are Tom's experience with depression, how he feels stand up comedians are "today's Shakespeare," how his improvisational goal is to compose new and great songs on the spot and his grossly underappreciated/slightly dysfunctional band, Brothers Past. Sports fans might enjoy the comparisons between athletic and musical teamwork and fans of obscenity will surely be delighted by the various uses of the f-word. Tom also takes us to the early days of Joe Russo's Almost Dead and what it's like playing in a band with the drummer serving as a point man. He also performs his first-ever a solo reading of "Bring It In Close" from the aforementioned American Babies release, "An Epic Battle Between Light & Dark."

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    Episode 19 - Jason Crosby & Roger McNamee

    Rob and Seth sit down with Jason Crosby and discuss how he went from a classically trained violin and piano prodigy, to working with artists like Solar Circus, God Street Wine, Oteil and The Peacemakers, Susan Tedeschi, Derek Trucks, Robert Randolph and The Bind Boys of Alabama all at a young age. Also explored are his musical and other interactions with Prince, Eric Clapton, Trey Anastasio and Bruce Springsteen - and how his life changed when he moved from New York to California, where he met and worked with folks like Bob Weir, Phil Lesh and Roger McNamee. Then Roger himself joins to chat how the seeds for his love of rock sprouted out of being born in the "Year of Elvis," and how his work with T. Bone Burnett inspired him to start Moonallice. Roger is not just a musician. He is also one of the most insightful businessmen of our generation, and this interview reveals how he has used the fruits of the resulting success from this insight to help empower (and employ) musicians and visual artists. He also discusses his decision to provide high quality streaming video of every Moonalice and Doobie Decimal System performance (and many others including a variety of performances from California's Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival). This has proven to be not just a benefit to music-lovers, but also seems to be a key part of the popularity growth of Roger's bands Moonalice and Doobie Decimal System.

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    Episode 18 - Chris Kuroda

    This episode features Rob and Seth backstage at Lockn' chatting with Chris Kuroda, one of the leading Lighting Designers in the music industry most well-known for his long-time work (nearly 30 years) brilliantly scheming and executing the visual presentation of the band Phish. They discuss how adding video elements to the band's already-elite light show presented many challenges and much inspiration to Kuroda. He talks about how he worked with other industry veterans, particularly Abigail Holmes (Roger Waters, The Cure, Talking Heads) to find the best ways to ease the video elements into the presentation to find the appropriate "vibe" design-wise and how his approach to execution is currently evolving greatly. Kuroda also explains why white is "his 11," and discusses how his relationship with Madison Square Garden has spilled over into the sports world, and how this may positively impact future Phish MSG performances.

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    Episode 17 -'s Andy Bernstein @ Lockn'

    Seth and Rob's first Lockn' episode features an interview with's founder, Andy Bernstein. HeadCount had a major presence at Lockn' - registering voters, producing Participation Row (a collection of 17 non-profit organizations offering non-partisan-based voter education and activities) and working with musicians on future voter registration efforts. Rob and Seth also talk to the JR Wotring who is HeadCount's lead at Lockn' as well as Lindsey Linen w/ Project Grows, one of the activations featured in Participation Row at this year's Lockn. HeadCount has helped to register over 388,000 voters to date!! Hopefully anyone reading this has, or is about to register to vote.

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    Episode 16 - Sam Bush

    This episode features the legendary Sam Bush and ends with a quick chat w/ Brian “Spike” Buckowski of Terrapin Beer who answers questions regarding the company’s recent friendly majority take-over by MillerCoors’ Tenth and Blake craft beer division. Sam talks extensively about his new record “Storyman,” Sam’s feelings about why Americana has become such a force in music, Guy Clark, recording Grammy-winning record with Emmylou Harris, Col. Bruce Hampton encouragements, and so much more.

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    Episode 15 - Simon Allen

    Rob gives a brief review of the new Frank Zappa documentary, and Seth and Rob critique recent webcast directing, and then Seth talks extensively about his festival work and various upcoming activities he has planned for his variety of events. Then they are joined by Simon Allen, drummer of The New Mastersounds. Simon first explains how the band evolved out of, and was inspired by the British DJ scene of the late 90s. Ultimately the trio discusses how TNMs broke the US market, how their approach had to change when they did so, learning and loving improvisation, tambourines, the balance between embellishing and leaving space, how the band members’ roles have changed on and off stage, how the band almost collapsed under financial pressures, slippery water, New Orleans JazzFest, Being influenced by - and then getting to play with The Meters and the contrast between the prevalence on on-stage collaborations in the US and the dearth of then in the UK. We also get Simon’s thoughts on the following musicians: Grant Green, Wes Montgomery, Jimmy Smith and Jimmy McGriff.

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    Episode 14 - Geoff Achison

    Rob and Seth first discuss their recent music and festival experiences and express on a tired expression. Then they go through the fascinating career of Australian singer/songwriter/guitar virtuoso Geoff Achison. Geoff talks about going to the Checkerboard Lounge during his first trip to the US, stumbling upon a heat of a Beale Street competition which he would ultimately win, the etiquette of the sit-in, winning the Albert King award, meeting and beginning a long relationship with Jorma Kaukonen, selecting and coercing his US agent Nancy Lewis-Pegel, the similarities and differences of US and Australian audiences, the pluses and minuses of the oft-limiting “blues artist” label, the genesis and success of his collaboration with Randall Bramblett, his story about sitting in with the Allman Brothers Band at The Beacon Theater, the man behind the song “Delta Dave” and the bizarre way he met the host of the Salty Dog Blues Internet radio show. Geoff also plays four acoustic songs from his forthcoming cd, Another Mile, Another Minute.

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    Episode 13 - Kevn Kinney

    Kevn Kinney explains to Rob and Seth the improvisational spirit behind, and each week's theme of the, “Kevn Kinney Auto Shop and Magic Show” - his ambitious five-night residency which takes place at City Winery in Atlanta August 2, 9, 16, 23 and 30 (every Tuesday). Kinney sits with his guitar, sometimes breaking into song while offering wisdom with regard to why musicians shouldn’t watch themselves on stage, how the popularity of vinyl has actually made It harder for many artists to release music on vinyl, fan behavior, his Best Of Songs release and the four separately-themed EPs from which it was culled, the project he is working on with BR5-49 co-founder Chuck Mead, performing in Europe, the evils of addiction, the Drivn’ n Cryin’ documentary “Scarred But Smarter,” why musicians should learn musical history, the danger of credit cards, appreciating and respecting our returning soldiers, the horrors of cabbage patch birth, Atlanta’s Ferris wheel and more. He also offers a li’l taste of his hit “Straight To Hell,” done reggae style, and demonstrates his various approaches to “Scarred But Smarter” and “Fly Me Courageous,” and performs other Kinney gems in their entirety. Closing music includes a sneak preview of next week’s episode featuring the brilliant Australian guitarist, Geoff Achison.

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    Episode 012.012 - Allie Kral and Duane Trucks ~ Candler Park Festival Pt. 2

    Before Seth and Rob get into the Candler Park Festival Flash Chats with Allie Kral and Duane Trucks, they discuss the Brooklyn Bowl, Questlove, Terrapin Beer Company, Seth's festival work trip and Rob's Colorado trip. The first of two festival flash chats is with Duane Trucks where they discuss the growth of Hard-Working Americans, the influence of legendary musicians like his father-in-law Jimmy Herring, Col. Bruce Hampton, Yonrico Scott, Kevin Scott, Jeff Sipe and his brother Derek Trucks. The trio also discusses Duane's path to locking-in with bassist Dave Schools. Next up is Allie Kral as she talks about her work with Cornmeal, how to make an impromptu band work, "The Kral Space," Marilyn Monroe moments, teaching herself violin, jamming with Bela Fleck, moe. and others. She also addresses the gut-wrenching task of informing Cornmeal her intentions to leave them, how the behavior of a creepy photographer inspired her future stage attire and we hear the genesis of a new activity for the Strings and Sol Festival in Mexico.

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    Episode 11.111 - Keller Williams, Brandon Mize - Candler Park Festival Pt. 1

    Seth and Rob conduct two “Festie Flash Chats” at the 2016 Candler Park Music Festival in Atlanta, Georgia. Keller Williams talks about maintaining a wide variety of projects, his upcoming “Shut The Folk Up and Listen” tour with Leo Kottke, collaborating with Bob Weir, some of his unique approaches to recording, playing with Del McCoury and The Travelin’ McCoury’s, Victor Wooten’s influence on his development, Ani DiFranco, how Kaki King is keeping Michael Hedges’ music alive, “Chair-Snapping Grassholes,” Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann and sets us up to embarrass ourselves in front of Allie Kral in Episode 12. Also they conduct an impromptu interview with Brandon Mize from Rival Entertainment and touches on how Rival has schemed and booked this festival over the years, how they earlier this year landed and executed what turned out to be Prince’s final public performance and other industry insider tidbits.

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    Episode 10.989 - Great Peacock

    Seth and Rob sit down with Andrew Nelson and Blount Floyd shortly after their band Great Peacock played a fiery afternoon set at the nearby Candler Park Festival. They dive into their songwriting process, including how addiction, characters met on the road and relationships inspire songs. Also discussed are future guest Kevn Kinney, the Old 280 Boogie, watermelon beer, the current state of country music, Nashville bars, publishing theft, the importance of country bumpkin charm, backwoods country parties, random interactions with members of Led Zeppelin, the festival that Blount will curate and the ponchos he wears and how despite the success of their debut cd, Making Ghosts (the band still considered its reception as a disappointment). The episode closes with new music from their forthcoming cd.

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    Episode 009.011 - Cherub

    Rob and Seth have an ebullient conversation with Jordan Kelley and Jason Huber about a ton of topics including the genesis and growth of Cherub, crazy things they have experienced on the road, collaborations, their forthcoming record, internet criticism, the importance of humility, doses, mimosas, tattoos, Condoleezza Rice, crazy audiences, supportive parents and gerk-jerking. For the first time in the band's career, their superb tour manager Ryan Hug joins for a portion and discusses how he is able to herd the band around the world, and he and Jason speak about their work with Shimon Presents' Work Exchange Team program - how it helped to set the course for each of their careers in music.

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    Episode 008.008 - Marc Brownstein

    Rob and Seth sit down with their old friend Marc Brownstein to discuss the current ethos of his band The Disco Biscuits, Headcount, the presidential race, his work with members of The Grateful Dead and other fascinations.

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    Episode 007 - The Black Angels

    Turner and Seth dive into a lengthy discussion with Black Angels' frontmen Alex Maas and Christian Bland about the interesting and impressive career of this mesmerizing band which created the Levitation Festival, and spawned the reunion of Austin's iconic 13th Floor Elevators.

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    Episode 005.335 - Brian "Spike" Buckowski

    This episode Turner and Seth host the internationally renowned head brewer of Terrapin Beer Company but not before talking about Seth's recent Mexico trip, Rob talks about meeting and seeing Moon Taxi perform at a brand new Athens venue and about attending the world premiere of Col. Bruce Hampton's "Here Comes Rusty" movie.

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    Episode 006.543 - Jefferson Waful

    The multi-talented, lighting designer/journalist/director/producer, Jefferson Waful joins Turner and Seth and among discussed topics are this year's Wanee Festival, how Jeff was impacted by his recent collaboration with Phish's Chris Kuroda and his work on the Umphrey's McGee-themed documentary "Reel to Real" which will be released online on June 1st.

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    Episode 004.20 - Chad Denney of Nimbleslick Entertainment

    On this episode, recorded BEFORE the death of the legendary Prince, Seth and Rob interview Chad Denney of Nimbleslick Entertainment. They also take a phone call from an astute and mysterious listener, and bring forth new versions of "Expressions on Tired Expressions" and "Reviewing The Reviewers."

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    Episode 003.97 - Col. Bruce Hampton Pt.2

    Before getting to part two of their interview with Col. Bruce Hampton, Turner and Seth discuss Seth's unusual take on the Phish world, offer another "Reviewing the Reviewers" as they break down an article on obnoxious fan based and further discuss the ever-changing world of music.

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    Episode 2 - Col. Bruce Hampton Pt.1

    This week Turner and Seth discuss the cancellations of some music festivals, the announcement of a few new ones, they go inside what makes a music festival a success, and close out the show with part 1 of 2 of the Col. Bruce Hampton interview.

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    Episode 1 - Turner and Seth

    Episode 001.37 With your hosts: Seth Weiner and Rob Turner Produced by: Bryan Terwilliger Recorded Live in Decatur, GA 3/1/2016

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